deciduous lower canines lingually errupting

RE: deciduous lower canines lingually errupting

depacey — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 18:48:39 GMT

Thanks for all the really helpful advice!! I shall be in touch with the owner. I did take some photos but couldn't get them to attach.

RE: deciduous lower canines lingually errupting

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 01:50:49 GMT

In my opinion you need to extract the lower deciduous canines soon.
This has to be done with care and skill, of course. If you are not confident about this procedure (sorry, I don't know whether you are or not!) there would be every reason to refer it.
This extraction is needed because:
1. The striking of the palate may be uncomfortable and in any case is traumatising the palate soft tissues and this in itself can become serious – as in your case it seems that it has.
2. As the occlusion on the palate continues the teeth will form little pits in the soft tissue, which will "lock" the occlusion in this position. This in turn may prevent a natural correction as the jaws grow,and inhibit growth in width of the mandible thus making the same malocclusion more likely in the permanent teeth.
3. It's also often said that the physical presence of these malaligned milk teeth will block the correct emergence of their permanent successors. Personally I think this very unlikely, but there it is, it's a consideration.

After that you don't do anything until the permanents erupt at about 4 months old, when you keep an eye on them to see what they do. To start ball play then, or sooner, is a good idea: it can do no harm and it can tip the canines enough to stop a problem developing. If the permanent teeth do go at the wrong angle, we need to wait until they are fully erupted and then treat. Treatment can be either orthodontic movement or shortening of the teeth, and it's the owners' choice at the time.

Of course if ultimately there's a malocclusion the dog probably will be thrown out of the show ring – or ought to be. If you can correct it "naturally", i.e. by measures such as ball play, that's OK; but if you fix it with any sort of appliance that's an artificial alteration and no, whatever the owners say ("can't you just do it and not tell anyone?"), the dog becomes disqualified ftom showing.

I loathe and detest the whole ludicrous showing thing.

RE: deciduous lower canines lingually errupting

Norman Johnston — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:23:39 GMT

This site will help you. https://www.dentalvets.co.uk/common-cases/lingually-displaced-canines
Some cases are severe and do require deciduous extraction on welfare grounds and also to allow the permanent successors an easier eruption path. I’m not sure radiographs will advance your case much at this stage but I did take pre and post op rads to ensure the teeth were removed properly. The owners loved seeing them.

The dog can be shown but it probably won’t win! Having said that the Spinone world is in a parallel universe to the real world. For decades this trait has been endemic within the breed and the society has shown no will to resolve tye issue. Shooting the messenger is their modus operandi.

Pictures of your case will help. Left and right side on with mouth shut and lips raised