Lime sulphur - dogs/cats - uk

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Julian Earl — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:18:06 GMT

[quote userid="5408" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dermatology/f/discussions/29288/lime-sulphur---dogs-cats---uk/224866#224866"]I feel like I’ve missed out! Practising in Leicestershire I can count the number of cases I’ve seen in 38 years on the fingers of one hand! [/quote]

Blimey youhave my respect! What on earth happened? How do you cope with operations with just your two fingers? You must be very adept with the other hand to compensate! I guess that ambidextrous rectal PDs are right out with that difficulty?

But my serious reply is...: Here in Lincolnshire we see a lot of the creatures. Including my own cat every August or September. Fipronil spot-on was never effective as treatment nor as prevention. I would use a flea comb to groom the clumps out and then treat the residual intense inflammatory patches let behind. Topical steroids if I had some at home otherwise injectables from my car boot. .

Do they cause a true hypersensitivity lesion or just a simple inflammatory response? I find it hard to believe that all of the victims have a genuine hypersensitivity reaction. Any thoughts?

TIA...

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Iain Richards — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 11:01:17 GMT

Thanks! (Rats, lost the argument)

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Mark Craig — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:48:45 GMT

Yes, I was referring to Frontline Spray, with a personal opinion. Isoxazolines seem to work great for Sarcoptes and Demodex in dogs.- personal opinion!

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Joyce Whitehead — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:12:26 GMT

Wasn’t Mark referring to Frontline there? I’ve used Bravecto in a couple of demodex cases and it worked amazingly well. Not had a sarcoptes to try it on yet.

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Iain Richards — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:26:19 GMT

[quote userid="5407" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dermatology/f/discussions/29288/lime-sulphur---dogs-cats---uk/224899#224899"] don't think it has done much for Sarcoptes[/quote]

IS that a personal opinion or is there some data for that? I got into an online spat on treating foxes for sarcoptes, being told it was treatable with a single tablet. My prefered was a single injection of lead, hence the spat. I didn't know fluralaner had a licence until I checked NOAH.

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Mark Craig — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 11:20:17 GMT

No product is fully licensed against Trombicula. Frontline Spray claims to 'aid in the control' of (Neo)Trombicula. It claims the same for Cheyletiella and Sarcoptes. I don't think it has done much for Sarcoptes, other than make it more challenging to diagnose.

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Rob Loxley — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:56:45 GMT

[quote userid="12930" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dermatology/f/discussions/29288/lime-sulphur---dogs-cats---uk"]Is lime sulphur available (legally) in uk?[/quote]

Limeplus from Dechra?

[quote userid="5408" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dermatology/f/discussions/29288/lime-sulphur---dogs-cats---uk/224866#224866"]I feel like I’ve missed out![/quote]

We see loads in east anglia, fipronil spray seems to work well, occasionally short-acting steroid for itch needed too

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Julian Earl — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:26:06 GMT

Are there any products licenced against trombicula ? Do we just treat with any antiparasitic miticide on principle? Donkey's years ago was a wash called Tetnosol for this sort of thing.A human sulphur-based medication as I recall with a very distinctive aroma! Used mainly for scabies in people.

Oh yes, Google is your friend: And, whaddya know?

It is still available! Here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=tetmosol+lotion&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifkuCQr5rrAhUYTxUIHdJOCGgQ7Al6BAgKECE&biw=1440&bih=799

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Mark Craig — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:07:59 GMT

You would think fluralaner might work, but MSD have no data on efficacy against harvest mites, Environmental exposure is probably still criticial. I don't think lime sulphur is available as a ready-to-use product.

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Joyce Whitehead — Thu, 13 Aug 2020 21:48:50 GMT

We don’t see many here in the Vale of York either, a few sporadic ones. Wouldn’t fluralaner work? Seems to kill all other mites we use it for?

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Julian Earl — Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:50:28 GMT

I feel like I’ve missed out! Practising in Leicestershire I can count the number of cases I’ve seen in 38 years on the fingers of one hand! I can only remember two cases vividly

David, you are lucky. Do not feel disappointed at not seeing them. We see them a lot here in Lincolnshire, especially in my own cat a few years ago! They do seem to be it intensely pruritic and I used a flea comb to physically remove the when possible. That was relatively easy in my super-docile and patient cat. As for the antiparasitic angle, I thought Frontline disappointing. Especially the spot-on. Even soaking the little blighters with the spray seemed to not be very helpful!

Seleen was useful in dogs. But I am not sure how easy owners find it to shampoo their cat! Not very is the short answer.

I usually resorted to shot term steroids to treat the intense local patches of dermatitis where the mites had congregated.

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David Bentley — Thu, 13 Aug 2020 08:09:29 GMT

I feel like I’ve missed out! Practising in Leicestershire I can count the number of cases I’ve seen in 38 years on the fingers of one hand! I can only remember two cases vividly. One was an EBT covered head to foot in hundreds of them (the owner had a very overgrown garden) and a black cat with “orange/red “growths”above both eyes..turned out to be Tombicula.

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Iain Richards — Thu, 13 Aug 2020 07:12:00 GMT

Yes, the little bastards are arond this year, having had a couple of relatively low years. TIme to spray frontline from knee to feet. SUe Patterson has dex dose - giving dex injectin orally for cats which I wanted to try compared to DMV.

I'd like to know more about their ecology and take them out at source!!