Crusty nares in a bulldog

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

Marni Miller — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:29:17 GMT

I’ve always thought this too with the brachycephalics - the tears don’t get to travel down into the nares (either spill out from the shallow socket and/or the lacrimal glands are blocked) and so the nose is drier than it ought to be. I usually recommend Vaseline to good effect IMOg

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

bob lehner — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:32:57 GMT

[quote userid="7808" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dermatology/f/discussions/29053/crusty-nares-in-a-bulldog/222060"]Dry eye is something that always should be ruled out. [/quote]

And straight forward blocked tear ducts in a brachycephalic?

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

Julian Earl — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 08:58:28 GMT

For creams, I would avoid any steroid-based treatments probably delaying re-epithelialisation. On principle, the tissue should be kept moist so from the human field Iwould sugest Zinc and castor oil. Cheap, non-irritant and the greasy nature should keep the exposed tissue moist,

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

Michael Woodhouse — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:59:07 GMT

[quote userid="4417" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dermatology/f/discussions/29053/crusty-nares-in-a-bulldog"]until it is safe to book an appointment and physically examin him?[/quote]

Why can't you safely examine the dog now? Leave owner out of the building.

Another reason we shouldn't try to diagnose with pictures/videos. Do a STT. Check LN. Check airflow. Signs of systemic disease, other skin lesions etc.

If it's just dry we find this the best with out spaniel - much better than Vaseline/oil

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dog-Nose-Balm-action-Natural/dp/B01DWEABSQ/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=dog+nose+cream&qid=1587916770&sr=8-5

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

Stefania Glowka — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 14:01:21 GMT

Dry eye is something that always should be ruled out. When I was first qualified (35 years ago!) we used to advise to rub in olive oil for cases of dry noses in boxers or other brachycephalics - at least it is natural and not going to harm the dogs if licked off! Perfect solution for lockdown days - any oil will do - sunflower oil probably as well as will be source of essential fatty acids applied externally.

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

Rob Loxley — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 09:53:53 GMT

Any dry eye?

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

Lenesa Govender — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 09:46:43 GMT

Thank you. Thats really helpful. Funny enough I told her to apply vaseline only for next few days while I do some research. She has tried various other ointments from petshops.

Thanks again

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

Jill Butterworth — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 06:29:42 GMT

Urea cream can help, but I'm not a dermatologist, so do your due diligence!

RE: Crusty nares in a bulldog

Beats — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 16:32:44 GMT

Hi Lenesa,

lovely photos!

I'm not an expert, but my thoughts would be:

1) don't pick the crusts probably (this often just removes healthy adherent epithelium as well making matters worse, or at least not helping). If significant crusting building up to extent that owner thinks really should be picking - send another photo to take a look as might be diagnositically helpful.

2) Irrespective of the pathological cause, I'd treat with some antimicrobials first as could either be a mucocutaneous pyoderma or secondary bacterial infection around nstrils from myriad of causes. I'd probably just hand ut a tube of dentisept (that sticky chlorhexidine one) and say see back in a month, sooner if gets worse. Probably won't work and then I'd probably give decent dose f eg cephalexin at 25m/kg q12hrs (assuming no GI upset) for 4 to 6 weeks and recheck.

3) There's little point biopsying these unless clear any secondary infection first. Cytology often just shows you what they last licked out of their mouths.

4) Topical steroid/antimicrobial treatment could be tried as alternative, but i don't know of any that don't just get licked off.

5) Checking other mucocutaneous parts for lesions (probably aren't any), but if you draw owners attention to these sites they can check - if present, then that would change my thoughts a bit, but only so far as would try course of cephalexin first re mucocutaneous pyoderma...

6) If just secondary infection in hyperkeratotic nose that has been picked at (quite likely), then some vaseline probably as good as anything as barrier to try t stop epidermal water loss and improve. Propylene glcyol diluted 1:1 with water could be an alternative less likely to have in house... I'd probably use some vaseline in prefernce to picking at if is looking hyperkeratotic, but at the minute I don't think can say whether hyperkeratotic bits being picked away or dried exudate crusts being picked away - would need to see in few weeks?