Anti freeze Cats How?

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Lucy Fleming — Wed, 06 May 2020 07:28:01 GMT

[quote userid="11308" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/emergency-critical-care/f/discussions/29046/anti-freeze-cats-how/222238"]what a cow should be drenched with and I put ethylene glycol[/quote]

did you get half a point for being half right?

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Anthony Dennison — Sun, 03 May 2020 10:11:02 GMT

[quote userid="4367" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/emergency-critical-care/f/discussions/29046/anti-freeze-cats-how/221971"]Propylene glycol is sweet[/quote]

In my final year exam MCQs one of the questions was what a cow should be drenched with and I put ethylene glycol

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Beats — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 13:38:26 GMT

Was there a recommendation on which bedside EG test kit to use in cases of possible recent ingestion?

Are the Kacey dipsticks from woodleys really as good as other tests? Good for dogs, but not for cats is what I've heard - is this accurate and fair assessment?

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Michael Woodhouse — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:54:50 GMT

The car stuff does taste sweet (or the red stuff in my Landrover does). Had a few splashes over the years.

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Iain Richards — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:00:31 GMT

[quote userid="12930" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/emergency-critical-care/f/discussions/29046/anti-freeze-cats-how/221993"]ethylene glycol[/quote]

Indeed, my error, I've just check most of teh manufacturers and it is ethylene glycol (ethanediol).

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

vetbl.locum — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:11:56 GMT

Never knew that.

Is that a factor in why more cats affected than dogs?

Rgds

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Beats — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:51:19 GMT

[quote userid="4367" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/emergency-critical-care/f/discussions/29046/anti-freeze-cats-how/221971"]Propylene glycol is sweet[/quote]

But not anything like as toxic to you as your double gin...

While proplyene glycol is toxic to cats (I believe it is no longer allowed in cat food), I think it is ethylene glycol that is the main cause of "antifreeze" toxicity in cats?

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Julian Earl — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:14:17 GMT

often cite outdoor ornamental ponds to stop them freezing in winter

Are not the dead fish floating on top a bit of a giveaway?

[quote userid="8958" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/emergency-critical-care/f/discussions/29046/anti-freeze-cats-how/221984"]often cite outdoor ornamental ponds to stop them freezing in winter[/quote]

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Anthony Dennison — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:06:19 GMT

I think it's a mix. Can often be accidental, small pool after leaking on the road/pavement, or as Neil says in an ornamental pond.

Can normally tell if it's been malicious because there's a spate of them rather than just a one off incident.

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Neil Wheadon — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:50:52 GMT

I often cite outdoor ornamental ponds to stop them freezing in winter. Presumably the dilution will reduce much sweet taste and cats do love to drink from ponds

Neil

RE: Anti freeze Cats How?

Iain Richards — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:47:03 GMT

Propylene glycol is sweet (having had a faceful I can attest to that*) so if someone has changed the collant in their car and left the old stuff out, cats can drinking it. BUt most modern cars are very closed systems so don't need the coolant changing. It's only folk like me that have older cars (1972 MGB) that do this. I used to see clusters and assumed it was the sam elocation, the same chap working on his car. BUt it could alos, I'm afraid, be malicious.

*As I was unsure if I had a) swallowed any and b) if it followed the same pathology as cats, I had a double gin chaser as a prophylactic measure!