Humping dog.....

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Stephen Spencer — Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:04:13 GMT

Yes, that was plan A and booked for next week, but postponed for now...

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Stephen Spencer — Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:03:02 GMT

Yes, that was one of my fears apart from the unwanted hassle of mating dogs in the house/garden. Regarding my question about Tardak, is this still available? Bitch on heat or not I'd like to see if this diminishes his overt 'maleness'

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Derek Lyon — Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:50:41 GMT

Hope to have bitch spayed as and when she can!

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janine redman — Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:40:31 GMT

Oh and they can tie quite easily if she comes into season and it might make pyometra more likely, sorry .

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janine redman — Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:08:31 GMT

Humping behaviour is as much to do with social hierarchy as sexual behaviour . It is a relatively non aggressive way of testing social structure . I don’t like male dogs doing it as they can precipitate an aggressive response so I would interrupt behaviour each time . Preferably just before it is about to start .

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Peter Faulkner — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:45:49 GMT

Apologies if this is a bit too experimental, but when I was a final year student at the RVC, I was chatting with the late, Prof. Ed Allen. He was telling me about a case of anorexia in a male dog he saw whilst locuming for a local practice. After excluding the obvious causes, he suspected it might be due to a bitch on heat within olfactory range, distracting the dog enough that the feeding centre in it's brain no longer exerted control over the dog's behaviour. He solved the problem with a low dose of Phenobarbitone. The pathways maybe different in this case, but probably no harm in giving it a try. The dose is lower than that used to control epileptic seizures. I can't remember exactly what he said, but maybe try 30mg once or twice daily. Could even start lower and gauge effect? Ed Allen was a great teacher, it was a huge loss when he left us.

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Stephen Spencer — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 17:29:56 GMT

Thanks Derek, something to look forward to then.... I've threatened him with a penile deviation op. Long-time since I've done one of those, can't be much difference to a ram?

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Derek Lyon — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 16:52:34 GMT

For what's worth we have a 3 year old Smooth Fox Terrier bitch which humps both me and my wife. Our daughter has a castrated male Border Terrier which recently mated and tied with one of her female Border Terriers which was on heat.

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Rob Davis — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 11:10:19 GMT

[quote userid="9846" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/f/misc-clinical-discussions/29024/humping-dog/221587"]He was castrated at about 12 months of age and still had the stitches in when my wife adopted him in 2009.[/quote]

Sorry - I misread that he was castrated at 12 years old, but I still thinks its fairly common behaviour.

[quote userid="9846" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/f/misc-clinical-discussions/29024/humping-dog/221587"]Which lab do you suggest for testosterone assays?[/quote]

We would generally use Idexx, but I'm fairly sure most of the commercial labs will offer it.

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Stephen Spencer — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:55:48 GMT

Thanks Rob,

He was castrated at about 12 months of age and still had the stitches in when my wife adopted him in 2009.

Which lab do you suggest for testosterone assays? It was Serono back in my days but I suspect they're long gone and swallowed up by a bigger fish...

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Rob Davis — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:08:50 GMT

Not my area of expertise, but...

I would not consider this abnormal behaviour, particularly in a dog who was castrated late in life. My old dog who was castrated at 6 months old used to do this fairly frequently throughout his life and with a late castration the testosterone-driven behaviours are likely to be learned, so sexually-driven behaviours are more likely to remain post-castration.

It's pretty hard to botch a castration unless he had an undescended testicle which was not removed. I guess you could check testosterone levels for this, but I would not think it very likely.

Behavioural advice is probably what is needed, and that is definitely not my forte...