What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Christina Smith — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:42:28 GMT

ACP, Xanax, diazepam. In that order. Medotomidine imo makes them noise sensitive even when heavily sedated. I sometimes wonder how many have distorted hearing. Some dogs just nervous about everything. Old dogs going deaf become noise phobic

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Michael Woodhouse — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 19:48:14 GMT

[quote user="Kate Richardson"]Why do some dogs react so badly? My own dog isn't phased in the slightest,[/quote]

Exactly, all our dogs have been fine with it. Took them clay pigeon shooting when young. The cocker looks for the falling birds (although is used to a lot of bangs with little action.....)

I know it's a bit out of fashion but I still like ACP - mild sedative an anxiolytic. Don't believe some of the daft rumours you hear.

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Gillian Mostyn — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 18:15:48 GMT

[quote user="Kate Richardson"]If it's the former, maybe exposing to fireworks (or a simulation) during the first 3-4 months of life should be advised in all dogs? [/quote]

It already is ...the dogs trust link above contains links to various 'sounds' CDs, including fireworks, that they recommend are played to all puppies.

When I get puppies in at this time of the year I encourage the owners to see it as perfect timing for habituation and training, rather than something to fear.

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Gillian Mostyn — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 18:08:33 GMT

Derek Lyon

Have you got a smart speaker? If so, ask Alexa to play 'fireworks display' periodically so the dogs get desensitised ....do nice things with them at the same time or while being fed etc ... gradually increase the volume over the next few weeks and you'll have a stess-free new year!

If you dont have a smart speaker, you can buy CDs online ... 'sounds scary' has them on it.

You can download it for free here:

https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/help-advice/dog-behaviour-health/sound-therapy-for-pets

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Linda Filshie — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 16:00:52 GMT

Xanax has been revelation for me with my own dog this year. Adaptil collar plus yucalm plus petremedy wasn't cutting it at all. Single dose of xanax->peaceful and chilled beastie who was still 'with it' enough to come in search of food when I headed for the kitchen!

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Kate Richardson — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 13:43:19 GMT

Why do some dogs react so badly? My own dog isn't phased in the slightest, I wonder if its due partly to the fact we got her at the beginning of October 3 years ago, so she heard them as a puppy and in part due to the fact we just ignore any anxious behaviour and don't thus confirm that anxiety is ok. (She's a pain in the butt for many other things however )

If it's the former, maybe exposing to fireworks (or a simulation) during the first 3-4 months of life should be advised in all dogs?

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Derek Lyon — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 13:36:48 GMT

Thank you all for your comments. I eventually bought Sileo.....very expensive and did NOT work at all. I just wish folks would only let off fireworks on Nov 5th only. This year been bad and several days been involved.

Kind regards

Derek

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Sammy82 — Wed, 06 Nov 2019 18:01:38 GMT

We had many clients in a previous practice reporting that Nutracalm works well for their pet. We only just started using it recently in my current practice. I usually recommend Nutracalm, or Xanax for the more anxious ones.

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Thomas Johnson — Wed, 06 Nov 2019 09:24:53 GMT

[quote user="Julian Earl"]

Has anyone tried the stuff from Nutravet, I forget the exact name! Nuitracalm or similar? I've seen it advertised a lot but no trial work. Any comments on this nutraceutical?

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Yes, it is Nutracalm, we do stock it but I remain to be convinced that any of the anti-anxiety nutraceuticals are of any benefit.

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Julian Earl — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 19:23:38 GMT

Has anyone tried the stuff from Nutravet, I forget the exact name! Nuitracalm or similar? I've seen it advertised a lot but no trial work. Any comments on this nutraceutical?

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Joyce Whitehead — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:54:30 GMT

I’ve used it for a couple of cases, in a combo with Gabapentin. One was a really aggressive little frenchie who was lunging at us, and we couldn’t even get an Elizabethan collar on to stop biting. With the trazodone/gaba combo we managed to get an injection into him safely. I’ve also used it on a very panicky westie to get blood samples.

I used trazodone at 10mg/kg rounded down and gaba at 20mg/kg rounded up. Dose given the night before then again 90-120 minutes before seeing. I believe others have used acp on top as injectable but I haven’t tried this.

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topaz koch — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 14:54:49 GMT

I am also using trazadone for the first time as recommended to me by someone from another practice who uses it with great effect - I have had some good effects so far, any feedback on this would be good. Also it is supposed to be great used as a drug to adminster 2-3hr before consult for those dogs that get very stressed/ anxious and aren't able to be handled well. Similar to use of gabapentin in cats.

Anyone using this regularly for this ?

thanks

Topaz

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Stephen Courtney — Sat, 26 Oct 2019 19:47:55 GMT

I'm having a crack at trazodone for a couple of dogs this year, but I usually use diazepam - easier to get hold of, and I'm twitchy about Xanax in my area as I don't want the local toe rags to know I have it in the building...

will update when I get feedback

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Aine Seavers — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 04:58:58 GMT

My take on the pexion is that in some dogs noise phobia is part of the seizure disorders-so for most normal noise phobic dogs it wouldn't be suitable.

RE: What are people using as sedatives for Bonfire night?

Beats — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 22:17:29 GMT

https://www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/company-uk/3m-products/~/3M-E-A-R-Classic-Soft-Earplugs/?N=5002385+8709322+8711017+8711405+8711720+8720539+8720546+8720766+8725604+3291226734&rt=rud

https://www.safeandsoundpets.com/index.html

for alternatives to drugs that might (I get no feedback, so can't really say) actually work.

Just be careful before typing "mutt muffs" into google in front of a client hoping to show them what you mean...

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janine redman — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 22:02:00 GMT

Sileo works but administration is difficult , especially as supposed to be trans mucosal whereas it is usually licked off and swallowed

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Ceri Gruffudd Jones — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 21:33:16 GMT

Has anyone tried Pexion? As Pexion and Sileo are licensed for noise phobiaS, I guess they should be our first choices. Limited success with Sileo so far and alprazolam still seems to be favoured by behaviourists.

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Sara Ramsey — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:30:49 GMT

Xanax .

Also discuss the behaviourhal aspects to try and improve things for the next time.

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vetbl.locum — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:41:55 GMT

Doom bar works well for me