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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>SANOS</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/28496/sanos</link><description> Anyone using it? 
 Does it work? 
 How much are we charging? 
 Ta! </description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: SANOS</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/215124?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:24:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:90964186-1f8b-4e97-8565-3b0ef1fa1b46</guid><dc:creator>Rob Davis</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Bob Partridge&amp;quot;]. It seems to me an excellent product - with a good evidence base.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your input, Bob, very interesting. I have only used it on a small number of cases do far as it is relatively expensive and I hadn&amp;#39;t seen much convincing evidence. Could you point me in the right direction to find the evidence ( I was only aware of the study published in JVD a couple of years ago).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: SANOS</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/215110?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:44:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:aca291ad-4a13-40d3-803d-07e27af71dbc</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Bob Partridge&amp;quot;] Personally I do apply it to lingual/palatal surfaces as well - the standard recommendation is only to apply it vestibularly.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Indeed so. There&amp;#39;s plenty in the bottle. I have no idea why the manufacturers recommend to apply to buccal and labial surfaces only.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Bob Partridge&amp;quot;] a separate fee for the time to apply[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Two minutes of nurse time....? &lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: SANOS</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/215104?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:50:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:bba4d5c0-6d82-4638-a168-c335bf88204c</guid><dc:creator>Bob Partridge</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you use a forum like this to discuss (&amp;amp; perceptually appear to agree) a pricing structure - you could be liable to anti-competitive legislation. This has serious fines &amp;amp; consequences.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I use SANOS widely - every case will benefit. Previously in my first opinion practice we had something like 40% uptake for all dentals. It seems to me an excellent product - with a good evidence base. It has been shown to be active for at least 6 months for subgingival protection. You may see some supra-gingival calculus forming in some cases - but the subgingival area is usually clean (assuming has been applied properly).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So clients have the option of &amp;quot;protecting their investment&amp;quot; in a dental treatment by extending the benefit by at least six months. Economically this often makes sense to them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In general terms a pricing approach is cost of product + a margin and then a separate fee for the time to apply.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well trained nurses excel at doing this, it generally should not need to be a MRCVS task.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One tip I recommend is to ensure that the teeth are properly scaled (esp sub-gingivally), polished, rinsed (ideally water-pik type unit to flush the sulcus) and then dried using the air syringe. Drying the sulcus will open it up a little - it also ensures that the SANOS is &amp;quot;wicked&amp;quot; throughly up and spreads around the tooth circumference. Gently drying the area allows the outer shell of SANOS to seal the sulcus. Personally I do apply it to lingual/palatal surfaces as well - the standard recommendation is only to apply it vestibularly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Incidentally Peter Emily did some work using SANOS in &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; mouths where subgingival calculus remained. SANOS still showed benefit by isolating the plaque and helping to avoid swarming etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t forget to ensure clients don&amp;#39;t brush for 7-10 days post SANOS application.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All best&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: SANOS</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/215098?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:26:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c821b109-54d3-4e92-92b5-cb3126a5cef7</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;GrooveJet&amp;quot;]Anyone using it?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes.&amp;nbsp; On selected cases only.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;GrooveJet&amp;quot;]Does it work?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think so. As I put it to owners, to give a severely compromised gum that needs all the help it can get, a bit of an advantage in healing in the first few weeks post-treatment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;GrooveJet&amp;quot;]How much are we charging?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An awful lot. Cost price plus usual drug mark-up then knock a bit off again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>