Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Bob Russell — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 09:13:21 GMT

Many thanks!

I have ordered some via eBay from he States. About £15 a piece. Not sure how long they last!!

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Beats — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:41:58 GMT

Putting "Respironics 3475-00" into google (and limiting to UK) gives:

https://picclick.co.uk/Respironics-Sidestream-Supply-Tubing-323502261985.html

https://www.viamed.co.uk/uk/index.php?uid=&sessionid=&g=&i=2&mobile=&page=mod&mod=o2cross&idline=22776&xrefcode=Sampling%20Lines

I have no idea if either of these look in any way helpful to you though!

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Bob Russell — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:38:27 GMT

Does anyone know a UK supplier for the sampling line kits?

These use Respironics 3475-00 lines.

Not hideously expensive to buy from the US but a local supply would be good!

Our large machine uses some pretty expensive water traps which we sourced from Italy last time! Thankfully reusable.

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Michael Woodhouse — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 00:11:33 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]Still some more on there if you search for NT1D. [/quote]

There's one less on ebay now, thanks for the heads up.

I don't care for a pulse ox, but capnography is so very useful. This will replace the old noisy capnograph in prep. I think I'm technically a 4 capnograph practice, thanks to Bob, if you count the old one that no longer works........

Have a multi-parameter monitor, but rarely connect up anything else, other than the temperature lead. ECG if very sick. Pulse ox just crap. The Broadbelt anaesthetic mortality study found pulse ox use increases risk of death........

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Bob Russell — Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:06:53 GMT

We are now a two capnograph practice!!!

The eBay unit was too good to miss so for about £300 we have a handheld machine that does CO2 and O2. The monitor is tiny but it connects to a nearby PC using a supplied dongle.

Hows that for posh?!! Only missing the rechargeable AA batteries (£7).

I accept it does not have a guarantee but it is new. Please tell me your boss(es) are willing to take that sort of risk?

Still some more on there if you search for NT1D.

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Beats — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 19:56:47 GMT

[quote user="GrooveJet"]Thing is: convincing an employer to spend £230 is an awful lot easier than convincing them to spend £1230...[/quote]

I honestly think a capnograph is worth it. I like side-stream with a nice big screen positioned so I can glance over merrily while prepping my hands or operating to be reassured that all is well. Admittedly mine was £800.

If you want something that you don't have, then figure out how much it would need to be charged per use for the boss to say yes (say paid off including monthly running costs in 6 months, excluding VAT and assuming no reduction in staff efficiency resulting). Then decide if it's worth it to you at that cost and folks would pay for it. Agree no charge for use on neutering procedures to ensure nurse familiarity. Agree that half of further approximate profits from its use will go towards your next piece of whatever if you think there will be plenty of surplus for less economically self-sustaining requests, or that the price per use will drop once paid off to allow you to use on all your cases.

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 15:44:24 GMT

Does anyone have any experience with the new mini-capnograph (from Vet Direct I think) that as far as I can see just goes into the circuit near the patient?

[quote user="GrooveJet"]Thing is: convincing an employer to spend £230 is an awful lot easier than convincing them to spend £1230...[/quote]

You could try pointing out that it's better to spend £1230 and get some value, than to throw £230 down the drain......

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Bob Russell — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 15:15:58 GMT

For £350 you can get a New (Other) on eBay with 14 day return policy. For about the same there are other models listed from time to time.

You can go for a Chinese new machine. Expect to pay VAT but probably not duty which as far as I am aware about is reclaimable. We bought a lab analyser from the States and could claim the VAT back with paperwork from the delivery company.

Obviously eBay items come with an element of risk!

eg: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NT1D-Portable-and-rechargeable-saturation-monitor-capnograph-CO2-SPO2/323780063496?hash=item4b62cbb108:g:LzoAAOSw4sNcBQUf

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 14:54:29 GMT

[quote user="GrooveJet"]I know in the past some are temperamental, too sensitive, not sensitive enough, not accurate, too fiddly. [/quote]

Until someone can convince me that such improvements have been made that the things now work reliably, I will not be buying another one.

Even when they work they don't tell you much.

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Miriam Lodewyks — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 13:28:43 GMT

Thing is: convincing an employer to spend £230 is an awful lot easier than convincing them to spend £1230...

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Bob Russell — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 12:52:32 GMT

I agree, don't bother. Get a capnograph.

A pulse ox might be of value for the short trip from the operating table to the kennel and consciousness but a capnograph should be more useful for surgery!

RE: Best pulse-oximeter to buy?

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 12:17:51 GMT

Best pulse ox to buy? None. Put the money towards a capnograph.

https://blog.technavio.com/blog/why-capnography-replacing-pulse-oximetry