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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/28082/brachygnathia-with-decidious-canine-advice</link><description> Hi All, 
 I have 2 three month old german shepherds booked with me tommorow for removal of decidious canines - they both have significant shortening of the mandible with decidious manidibular canines caudal to the maxillary and causing trauma to the</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/210027?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:39:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3173bc13-e5fc-4a31-8ef4-59f9dbca532f</guid><dc:creator>Lucy Fleming</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Evelyn Barbour-Hill&amp;quot;]swine-chopped[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WTF?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/210026?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:28:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:f47a11c9-360f-4738-b301-572f2f14630d</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Chris Allen&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Evelyn Barbour-Hill&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or you could just say overshot and undershot..... &lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/tongue-in-cheek.gif" alt="Tongue-in-cheek" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what does each of them words mean as I get confused whether it is undershot because the mandible is shorter or because it extends past the maxilla?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you miss the &lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/tongue-in-cheek.gif" alt="Tongue-in-cheek" /&gt; ?&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;&lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You could always avoid the confusion by noting that the dog is swine-chopped.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/tongue-in-cheek.gif" alt="Tongue-in-cheek" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/209745?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 22:42:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e2446f5a-89e4-4c1a-b57f-d47ef532b7c4</guid><dc:creator>Norman Johnston</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="https://www.avdc.org/Nomenclature/Nomen-Occlusion.html"&gt;https://www.avdc.org/Nomenclature/Nomen-Occlusion.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/209744?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 22:36:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:591c2e39-309e-4b55-b1a2-764dd2921830</guid><dc:creator>Chris Allen</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Evelyn Barbour-Hill&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or you could just say overshot and undershot..... &lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/tongue-in-cheek.gif" alt="Tongue-in-cheek" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what does each of them words mean as I get confused whether it is undershot because the mandible is shorter or because it extends past the maxilla?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/209743?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 22:27:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:bf87d052-7be1-43f8-b45d-e58d804d43a2</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Or you could just say overshot and undershot..... &lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/tongue-in-cheek.gif" alt="Tongue-in-cheek" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/209742?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 22:23:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b92553a6-490e-44ce-8b3b-45e58c695ed4</guid><dc:creator>Chris Allen</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Alex,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Definately interested in the correct descriptive terms, is there a class reference?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/209736?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 19:40:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:678c8cc0-40ce-4eb7-a991-48fe3b8a81de</guid><dc:creator>Alexander Geddes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Chris, great job on identifying these and recommending exactly the right treatment!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with everything Rob mentioned and below is Norman Johnston&amp;#39;s top tips for this procedure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m a nomenclature geek so just for your interest (or maybe not!) - brachygnathia just means short jaw - it doesn&amp;#39;t specify which jaw is short. So if you want to stick to that term - either use mandibular brachygnathism or maxillary prognathism for this condition. To get really pedantic, we don&amp;#39;t really like either of those terms because we&amp;#39;re being specific about which one is longer/shorter/normal etc. So we prefer to simply place them into classes, this being class II, otherwise you could describe it as mandibular distoclusion - simply meaning caudally positioned relative to the maxilla - rather than trying to determine cephalometrics.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/Hot_smiley.png" alt="Cool" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope that helps!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;https://www.dentalvets.co.uk/common-cases/lingually-displaced-canines&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Brachygnathia with decidious Canine advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/209734?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 18:55:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:bb5246ad-8de9-456b-9961-a0644f160b50</guid><dc:creator>Rob Davis</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Radiographs are really helpful to identify exactly where the adult teeth are (I usually take 2 views). They are usually positioned on the palatal/lingual side of the deciduous root. I always do flaps for these. Avoid using any instruments on the palatal/lingual sides of the roots - the developing adult teeth are very fragile at this stage. Be patient.....it is easy to fracture the deciduous roots if you apply any significant force, so keep working away at the ligament until it&amp;#39;s ready to come.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/members/dentalvet" class="internal-link view-user-profile"&gt;Norman Johnston&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;gave a talk on these at the EVDS Forum in Malaga a couple of years ago so he may have more tips!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t believe there is anything else you can do at this stage to encourage the adult canines to move into the correct position, but monitor them frequently. Ball therapy, crown extensions, incline planes etc can all be used where appropriate once they are erupting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>