Kennel club stance on vaccination

RE: Kennel club stance on vaccination

Bob Russell — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 11:31:06 GMT

Came across a very interesting clip that shows how some social media savy people can 'trick' the system to get their rather nutty views to fill up your facebook tyc account!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p071q5d5?intc_type=singletheme&intc_location=bbcsounds&intc_campaign=bbcsounds&intc_linkname=audioclip_snakeoil_contentcard11

RE: Kennel club stance on vaccination

KMurphy — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:15:38 GMT

[quote user="Edward Jones"]what to do about lepto?[/quote]

My understanding is that the Lepto vaccine has been shown to only offer up to 12 months immunity and titre testing isn't appropriate so I would booster anyway and test the rest if the owner wishes.

RE: Kennel club stance on vaccination

Edward Jones — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:26:01 GMT

If titre testing, what to do about lepto? Booster anyway or assume that if the DHP are okay then Lepto probably is too?

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Joyce Whitehead — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:52:16 GMT

I’ve only done one titre test, and that was in a beagle that had recently recovered from SRMA. The referral neurologist suggested not vaccinating or titre test, but the owner was keen to check he had some immunity. Which he didn’t, so we gave him his booster (including L4 ), and he was absolutely fine.

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Julie Innes — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 16:40:36 GMT

I have a fair few anti- vaccination clients. I just note on their records that I have advised vaccination, and leave it at that. The more you try to convince people, the more they believe they are right. Often, because, I don't respond the way they expect they end up asking me my opinion, which I'm happy to give, but I'm not going to try to persuade them.

The current trend seems to be people calling up asking do we "do titres"? I explain that we can, of course, send blood to the lab for a titre reading, but since there are no definitive levels at which titres are protective it can be hard to interpret. Also, how often do you do the titre testing to ensure your dog is covered? Surely once a year is not enough. Every month? (lucrative business for someone). Despite many enquiries for titre testing, I don't think I've actually had anyone go ahead with it.

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Lucy Fleming — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:45:03 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]showing DHP at 8and 10 weeks, nothing else. The breeder's bumf said he had been fully vaccinated[/quote] Ironically, the anti-vac people often quote the idea that puppy vaccines are given "too early" and shouldn't be administered until after 16 weeks. Guess this one missed that memo...

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Niall Taylor — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:02:36 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]Is vaccination still so discredited in 2019?[/quote]

Yes indeed, with our esteemed homeopathic colleagues leading the way, bless them! For more information see chapter nine, page 178

Science denialism is alive and kicking. It's bad enough in the veterinary world but some of the things that happen in the human field are appaling.

We get people insisting on titre testing ('cos that's wot they read on the intyweb) but when asked what they would do if antibody levels were found to be insufficient they still say they wouldn't vaccinate anyway

Niall

RE: Kennel club stance on vaccination

Bob Russell — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:14:01 GMT

We had a recent enquiry as to the price for vaccinating a litter of puppies without lepto.

The phone was put down as soon as I tried to discuss the pros and cons.

Clearly not the first practice to try to talk some sense into them!

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Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:41:25 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]And the anti-vaxer nutters are mostly dog people.[/quote]

I could just possibly accept this sort of reply in 1986 but not in 2019......

Is vaccination still so discredited in 2019?

[/quote]

Yeah they're still at it.

As it happens I saw a new puppy today. He came with a whole load of stuff from the breeder and a vaccination card showing DHP at 8and 10 weeks, nothing else. The breeder's bumf said he had been fully vaccinated and actually said to note he had not had leptospirosis vaccine; that he should never have leptospirosis vaccine and never have boosters, vets recommend boosters quite unnecessarily, if anyone ever pressed for a booster he should have a blood test, if he really needed a booster he should have homeopathic nosodes which are much safer, over-vaccination causes many serious illnesses sometimes many months after the vaccine and often kills," believe me I speak from experience".....

The owner is quite a well brought up lady so I described this to her as "utter nonsense". "I trust you completely" she said.

RE: Kennel club stance on vaccination

Anthony Todd — Mon, 25 Feb 2019 18:28:51 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]And the anti-vaxer nutters are mostly dog people.[/quote]

I could just possibly accept this sort of reply in 1986 but not in 2019......

Is vaccination still so discredited in 2019?

RE: Kennel club stance on vaccination

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:42:52 GMT

[quote user="Richard Carter"]

also a bit of a mystery why you cannot show a cat without producing a vacc card at registration but doesn't appear to apply to dog shows

[/quote]

Because cat shows are in the iron grip of the self-appointed Governing Council of the Cat Fancy, while dog shows are in the iron grip of the self-appointed "governing body of dog breeding" the Kennel Club.

And the anti-vaxer nutters are mostly dog people.

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Richard Carter — Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:24:47 GMT

also a bit of a mystery why you cannot show a cat without producing a vacc card at registration but doesn't appear to apply to dog shows

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Robert FalconerTaylor — Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:41:29 GMT

KC know how to copy/paste a statement for para 2, 3 and 4. 4 is from the wrong document surely? Sack the IT PR person I say and get someone who gives a damn about the dog's death and the impact on the human family.

How would the poor owner know that their 'exhibit' had been "exposed to such disease during the period of 21 days prior to the show or suffering from any visible condition which adversely affects its health or welfare may be exhibited". Were the owners aware that said exhibit was in a show and not a training class?? R

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david kemp — Thu, 21 Feb 2019 14:18:43 GMT

Surely the best way to reduce the risk is for the kennel club to take the same stance as the jockey club and insist on vaccination not just recommend.

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david kemp — Thu, 21 Feb 2019 14:15:09 GMT

The Kennel Club is saddened to hear of the death of a dog last week from parvovirus.
The dog had attended an obedience class held by Leamington Dog Training Club at the Kennel Club’s building, Stoneleigh on Wednesday 6th February the day before it showed symptoms. It is extremely unlikely that the dog contracted the disease at Stoneleigh due to the incubation period for the virus, which is between 3 and 14 days. However due to the presence of the dog on the premises, the Kennel Club has taken the precaution of closing the building and is currently conducting a deep clean and sanitisation of the premises and will keep the building closed until all precautions have taken place which is typically between five and seven days.
The Kennel Club asks for all those that might have been in contact with the infection to keep a close eye on their dogs and if they see any signs of canine parvo-virus, the effects of which include having a high temperature, having less energy, not wanting to eat, vomiting and diarrhoea often with blood, to take their dog to their vet promptly. The best way of protection from the virus is to ensure that your dogs are fully vaccinated and maintained according to your vet’s recommendations.
The Kennel Club has been keeping its customers up to date on the situation and will be refunding those clubs that have shows booked while the premises are closed.
Exhibitors are reminded of Kennel Club show regulations which state that no dog suffering from any infectious or contagious disease or having been exposed to such disease during the period of 21 days prior to the show or suffering from any visible condition which adversely affects its health or welfare may be exhibited.