Bitch with persistent oestrus

RE: Bitch with persistent oestrus

Stephen Courtney — Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:51:14 GMT

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[quote user="Dinu Catilina"]It is fairly common in young females with their first season and I would just let it run its course. [/quote]It can't be that common if I've not been aware of it in 40+ years! albeit I did think along the lines of this or multiple follicles.

What bothers me is the neutrophilia and pyrexia.

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If you are fortunate enough to have breeder clients ( as opposed to puppy farmers) you get a fair few split seasons. Please note sarcasm .... it is hard work!

On advice from a specialist I have ended the persistent/ endlessly split season with a course of norethisterone - 1 tab daily for 28 days - when they stop there is a rebound season that is usually normal. Cant remember all the details, but you also have to cover with antibiotics as they pretty much turn into an open pyo at first, but then all Ok and got a nice litter at the end of it.

However I'd rather spay!

RE: Bitch with persistent oestrus

Sarah Keir — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 19:40:26 GMT

Pus is generally culture negative from what I remember - all those WBC toxins and the bacteria already phagocytosed and intracellular. As Dinu says, you are likely to only get vaginal flora.

RE: Bitch with persistent oestrus

Dinu Catilina — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 17:26:19 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]It can't be that common if I've not been aware of it in 40+ years![/quote]

I see a few every year.

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]What bothers me is the neutrophilia and pyrexia.[/quote]

May or may not be related? Swab for C&S as Clive suggested? But at this age it's unlikely to find anything else than vaginal flora.

RE: Bitch with persistent oestrus

Joyce Whitehead — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:23:56 GMT

Yep I’ve also seen a couple of bitches that have had recurrent frequent seasons, witnessed by Vets as well as owners so certain they were in season. And again spaying them seemed to find quite normal uterus and ovaries so a bit mysterious!

No access to HRT type patches? Anecdote but a vet first practice I worked in had a terrier pup who ate her contraceptive pill packet containing almost a month of supply. No immediate I’ll effect, but her first season was when she was 3....

RE: Bitch with persistent oestrus

Clive Ansell — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 15:18:43 GMT

+1 for getting speyed sooner rather than later.

Could take a vulval swab for C&S?, or just the pyrexia and neutrophilia with antibiotics and spey

RE: Bitch with persistent oestrus

Julie Innes — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:22:04 GMT

I had a similar situation in a patient- black lab that came into season about 3 times in the space of 6 months! I had no idea why, and naturally the dog belonged to my cousin. Eventually found a window to spay her, expecting to see ovarian cysts/ other abnormalities, but completely and utterly normal!

Since then I've seen a couple of similar cases, having never seen it in 20 years..

RE: Bitch with persistent oestrus

Martin Atkinson — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:03:17 GMT

What bothers me is the neutrophilia and pyrexia.

RE: Bitch with persistent oestrus

Dinu Catilina — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:38:32 GMT

Probably a split season where she has not ovulated and it's on repeat. It is fairly common in young females with their first season and I would just let it run its course. You could always use Chorulon to attempt and trigger ovulation but not sure it's really worth it.