Taiwan

RE: Taiwan

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 18:08:03 GMT

[quote user="Silvia Maldonado"] Hong Kong? [/quote]

No limbo. Part of China. We leased it and the lease ran out. (Well, to be exact, we leased the New Territories, while the Hong Kong island itself was ours, but that would be a non-viable entity on its own). The Chinese rulers assured us they would run it differently from the rest of the "People's Republic".

RE: Taiwan

Silvia Maldonado — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 16:50:50 GMT

In what "limbo" shall we place Hong Kong?

Whether Catalonians like it or not, the region is still part of Spain.

RE: Taiwan

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:01:43 GMT

You will find the bicycling thread further down the page.

RE: Taiwan

Francisco Gomez — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:38:06 GMT

[quote user="John Alborough"]

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]And I am the proud owner of one of their fine machines [/quote]

Me too!

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I did the Blithfield Tri last Sunday on my Giant. Bought it 5 years ago and hadn't failed me yet.

RE: Taiwan

Sarah Keir — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:19:55 GMT

And Crimea

RE: Taiwan

John Alborough — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:05:07 GMT

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]And I am the proud owner of one of their fine machines [/quote]

Me too!

RE: Taiwan

Robin Grimmer — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:45:07 GMT

I think it's worth pointing out and to bring even this thread round to cycling, that the world's largest cycle manufacturer - Giant - is based in Taiwan. And I am the proud owner of one of their fine machines

RE: Taiwan

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 12:11:36 GMT

[quote user="Francisco Gomez"]A bit like Palestine, Kurdistan, Catalonia, Quebec or Tibet? [/quote]

No, not remotely like any of those.

Tibet, incidentally, was sort of arguably part of China, but had also been effectively sovereign and independent for a long time. The "People's Republic" invaded and seized the land in the usual brutal and ruthless Communist manner in the mid-Fifties. I remember it. You won't find anything about this in most history books. Look in the Oxford History of the Twentieth Century for example (and there's a book that ought to be authoritative and reliable, surely) and there's no mention of it, in any terms at all. Why not? Because the Chinese government made it plain that if there were, the book would have no sale in China, nor would any other book or product from the OUP or any associated companies, ever. For the same reason, you won't find Tibet in an atlas, only the physical geographical feature the Tibetan Plain.

A little later on, the Chinese invaded India apparently intending to annex the land between Tibet and the Brahmaputra river. But after a tense and worrying period they went home again.

RE: Taiwan

Bob Russell — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:44:24 GMT

It can be argued that Tibet ought to be an independent country but it has been administered by the PRC since the 1950's.

Formosa/Taiwan has a complex and difficult history but to the best of my knowledge has never been part of communist China despite claims on it.

RE: Taiwan

KMurphy — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:13:47 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]Taiwan is a sovereign, independent country that happens to be claimed by The Peoples Republic of China.[/quote]

Although you could say exactly the same for Tibet.

RE: Taiwan

Bob Russell — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:56:07 GMT

Actually nothing like Palestine, Catalonia, Quebec nor Tibet.

Taiwan is a sovereign, independent country that happens to be claimed by The Peoples Republic of China.

RE: Taiwan

Francisco Gomez — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 06:39:06 GMT

A bit like Palestine, Kurdistan, Catalonia, Quebec or Tibet?