Rat-bait poison and birds

RE: Rat-bait poison and birds

Joyce Whitehead — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:44:30 GMT

They did also have chickens, but also other ducks, and it was only this one I saw. It's so long ago it has disappeared from our system, I've just looked!

RE: Rat-bait poison and birds

Aine Seavers — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:07:24 GMT

it helps build a view of what to expect so thanks-Were Chickens on same farm-its the Chickens that seem to be the resistant ones so trying to find a Chicken case.

RE: Rat-bait poison and birds

Joyce Whitehead — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:46:01 GMT

I had a farmyard duck years ago that started with weird bruises and had potential access to rat poison. I treated it with vit K as I was suspicious, it got better. Sorry totally anecdotal!

RE: Rat-bait poison and birds

Iain Richards — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 06:57:56 GMT

It appears owls, esp barn owl, can suffer secondary poisoning, either thorough main prey consuming bait accidentally, or if the owls turn to mice and rats in the absence of normal prey. Like you, I'd treat!

RE: Rat-bait poison and birds

Aine Seavers — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 01:35:28 GMT

Thanks Marie,I would also opt to treat on basis Vit K is such a safe antidote to use but I was sent this interesting link from another forum -it talks of T1/2s, albumin binding and metabolism differences between chickens and other birds so wildfowl/owls etc at risk but less so chickens-Has anyone ever treated a poisoned clinically affected Chicken-given all the rat baits on farms you would expect it to be common but I have never heard of one affected-not that I am around chickens as many as dogs etc but it is an interesting chart and obeys the genomic prescription behaviour theory at least.

P91 of the below charts metabolic speed of warfarin in chickens compared to some other birds/mammals. In chickens so fast they are pretty resistant but owls quite sensitive

Anticoagulant Rodenticides and Wildlife

RE: Rat-bait poison and birds

Marie Kubiak — Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:53:12 GMT

I'm not aware if any resistance to rat bait so I'd definitely opt to treat if intoxication is suspected