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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Lidocaine / ketamine CRIs</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/26917/lidocaine-ketamine-cris</link><description> Hopefully a quick question - if good sterility maintained, for how long is a lido/ket CRI in saline stable? 
 I have a vague idea in the back of my head about using them more regularly in peri-operative analgesia, currently use them in ortho ops etc</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Lidocaine / ketamine CRIs</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/196612?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2018 15:59:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:118104f5-3721-4f7f-98b9-40032f8dcc33</guid><dc:creator>Sarah Keir</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Edward Jones&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are drugs supplied in brown bottles light sensitive?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In general, yes. But also some that are not supplied in brown bottles such as metronidazole for injection and Dimazon (frusemide for injection)!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lidocaine / ketamine CRIs</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/196600?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2018 13:56:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:91b38a8c-398c-45cc-9b4f-6bbb44b221c2</guid><dc:creator>Rob Loxley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Lucy Fleming&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;David Mills&amp;quot;]Ketamine is for an individual named patient so you might run into issues sharing this with others.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But if you know how much fluid volume they received (carefully measured eg by pump, rather than just eyeballing the bag!) then you know how much ketamine each patient receives (presuming adequate mixing).&amp;nbsp; So therefore it&amp;#39;s the same as taking a dose from a multi-use vial?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;My understanding also was that in the CD register the drugs needed to be dispensed to a named patient? Any unused in the infusion bag can be dealt with as patient-returned drugs, but not sure this can be returned &amp;#39;to stock&amp;#39;?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lidocaine / ketamine CRIs</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/196592?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2018 13:24:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:88989877-1aa7-4e5c-9a02-ff62650fdea6</guid><dc:creator>Edward Jones</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Are drugs supplied in brown bottles light sensitive?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lidocaine / ketamine CRIs</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/196591?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2018 12:55:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a7e4c6b7-dfb8-448b-b308-0226ba0f22ca</guid><dc:creator>Lucy Fleming</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;David Mills&amp;quot;]Ketamine is for an individual named patient so you might run into issues sharing this with others.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But if you know how much fluid volume they received (carefully measured eg by pump, rather than just eyeballing the bag!) then you know how much ketamine each patient receives (presuming adequate mixing).&amp;nbsp; So therefore it&amp;#39;s the same as taking a dose from a multi-use vial?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lidocaine / ketamine CRIs</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/196306?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:16:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:581e6ad1-76d2-4f46-a15f-a26769a1a479</guid><dc:creator>David Mills</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We use them a lot, and only keep for three days maximum including usage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t discount lidocaine in cats (see vasg.org).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ketamine is for an individual named patient so you might run into issues sharing this with others.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lidocaine / ketamine CRIs</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/196284?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:17:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:937267e7-a639-4a4a-ad80-ae0529ae2f7b</guid><dc:creator>Laurence Webb</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This recipe from Anderson-Moores states that MLK is stable for 4 days although I don&amp;#39;t know what that is based on&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;https://www.andersonmoores.com/uploads/files/AMVS-MLK%20recipe(1).pdf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lidocaine / ketamine CRIs</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/196188?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:30:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3e550f1d-c574-46dd-a8ad-7a7eb963da7c</guid><dc:creator>Iain Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;From memory, where i&amp;#39;ve seen them used, at least 24hrs probably longer. I&amp;#39;m not aware of any chemical breakdown. VIN has a good guide to these.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>