Abnormal penis and new opening

RE: Abnormal penis and new opening

Francisco Gomez — Sun, 05 Nov 2017 10:06:21 GMT

Thank you all for taking the time to answer my case, it's been very helpful.

[quote user="Dinu Catilina"]

Hi Fran, did you check for a persistent frenulum? Is the urethral opening placed dorsally? If he has no opening how does he urinate?

Depending on the type of malformation you may either amputate the penis or consider surgery to open the urethra ventrally and reconstruct the prepuce to provide adequate cover.

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He urinates dorsally, the penis contains os penis but doesn't have an opening at the end.

[quote user="David Mills"]

Perineal urethrostomy, close hole. No need to amputate penis.

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I was thinking that too.

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Virginia Campbell — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 22:07:49 GMT

I suppose you could sedate/GA and catheterise him, put some contrast medium into the bladder then pull the catheter give the bladder a squeeze till you get some urine back and take a few Xrays, just in case he has another blind ending urethra in the penis that you could open up. With the understanding that it's still not a normal urethra in length, diameter or (probably) lining and therefore may stricture or be subject to an increased risk of infection cf normal. Or perineal urethrostomy.

Pretty unobservant breeder not to notice this till the pup is 3-4mo. Are they clever enough to understand that they cannot buy surgery to turn it into a normal pup? I would discuss euthanasia as an option especially if the pup is clinically affected ie has signs of cystitis or urine scalding.

We had one of these a couple of years ago, pup had been bought via DoneDeal/Gumtree or somesuch from Wexford/Tipp (puppy farming central), no mention by breeder, new owner noticed it a few days later. Think pup was unwell in self, from memory owner had no money and elected euth.

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bob lehner — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 17:00:53 GMT

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Clare Tapsfield-Wright — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 16:48:36 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]

Abnormal penis and new opening

Saw the title and thought I was on the wrong thread......

[/quote] or the wrong forum ....

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Anthony Todd — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 14:58:52 GMT

Abnormal penis and new opening

Saw the title and thought I was on the wrong thread......

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Lucy Fleming — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 14:39:20 GMT

It's one of those weird things that always stuck in my head!

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Anthony Dennison — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 13:58:32 GMT

[quote user="Lucy Fleming"]Is this a case of hypospadia?[/quote]

I was thinking that too, but couldn't remember the name of it!!

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Lucy Fleming — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 09:14:51 GMT

Is this a case of hypospadia? A bit of quick googling research suggests so - in which case perineal urethrostomy seems to be surgery of choice (so 'wot David said').

As to whether it's ethical to sell the puppy - I don't see why not as long as they are upfront about the issue (and preferably have fixed it beforehand!). I don't know how heritable the problem is but I'd probably advise not to repeat that mating, at least.

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Sammy82 — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 09:12:00 GMT

Is he urinating without problem, and where from? If there is no problem I don't see the need for surgery. The picture reminds me of a "heifer"I saw a few years ago, it looked fairly similar in position of the normal vulva and he/she was urinating straight up in the air from the little penis. I could feel testicles in the groin and assumed it was a type of hermaphrodite. I will try to dig out the photo.

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David Mills — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 09:03:50 GMT

Perineal urethrostomy, close hole. No need to amputate penis.

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Julie Innes — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 08:51:15 GMT

How bizarre! Does "he" have testicles? can you see where he urinates from? I would probably have a chat with a specialist soft tissue surgeon before attempting anything (wuss that I am!). Is the owner the breeder?

RE: Abnormal penis and new opening

Dinu Catilina — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 13:26:02 GMT

Hi Fran, did you check for a persistent frenulum? Is the urethral opening placed dorsally? If he has no opening how does he urinate?

Depending on the type of malformation you may either amputate the penis or consider surgery to open the urethra ventrally and reconstruct the prepuce to provide adequate cover.