Chlorhexidine solution

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:51:16 GMT

[quote user="Victoria Fox"]

How about CLS solution by IM3?

Not sure if this can be diluted down and used directly as a rinse?

http://www.im3vet.com/index.php?artId=64

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It's mint-flavoured which makes dental procedures much more pleasant with smelly mouths, but I suspect dogs will not like the taste when administered conscious.

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Victoria Fox — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:20:30 GMT

How about CLS solution by IM3?

Not sure if this can be diluted down and used directly as a rinse?

http://www.im3vet.com/index.php?artId=64

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:05:43 GMT

Hexarinse reappeared recently, so I have a stash again, but thanks for that. However when I googled "Joule Technologies" it came up with an engineering company whose tagline is "In-Circuit and Functional Test Fixtures".... I don't even know what this means, but I suspect I may have the wrong company?!

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Grieg Durrant — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:48:13 GMT

Alex is testing a CHX dental spray at the moment sourced as a sample from Joule Technologies Ltd.

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Aine Seavers — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 07:13:54 GMT

[quote user="Joyce Whitehead"]sn't it a concern that there is xylitol in the ingredients above, I thought it was toxic in dogs? [/quote]

the Poison is in the dose/kg so the dog would have to drink 12 of the 250ml bottles in a 20min period to get to toxic level- a bit like a sip of wine nightly versus 4 bottles in one hit sort of comparasion.

We really only use to help with mouth odour for teething pups and dogs who like to eat other dog and horse poo scenarios.

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 19:04:51 GMT

[quote user="robloxley"]

[quote user="Rob Davis"]it is specifically a rinse that I'm after[/quote]

Forgive me, but why not Corsodyl?

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Cos it tastes horrible!

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Loxley — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:23:49 GMT

[quote user="Rob Davis"]it is specifically a rinse that I'm after[/quote]

Forgive me, but why not Corsodyl?

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:35:32 GMT

[quote user="Joyce Whitehead"]We've just had a Henry Schein dental catalogue delivered, and they have both a spray and gel version of chlorhexidine in there. Both under their own HS manufacture logo. [/quote]

Hmmmm.... I spoke to Henry Schein about their CHX spray ages ago when hexarinxe disappeared. I asked how many pump sprays were in the bottle and they promised to get back to me and let me know. They didn't.... It is considerably more expensive than hexarinse was for a much smaller quantity, so I haven't used it.

There are several CHX containing pastes which can be useful, but it is specifically a rinse that I'm after.

[quote user="Joyce Whitehead"]Isn't it a concern that there is xylitol in the ingredients above, I thought it was toxic in dogs? [/quote]

Xylitol is toxic in dogs, but not at the concentration used in vet aquadent. There is some evidence that it can retard plaque formation, but there is no evidence that it helps when added to drinking water and swallowed (I have asked virbac specifically for any evidence and there isn't any). It is not a produce which I recommend.

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Joyce Whitehead — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 17:20:05 GMT

We've just had a Henry Schein dental catalogue delivered, and they have both a spray and gel version of chlorhexidine in there. Both under their own HS manufacture logo.

Isn't it a concern that there is xylitol in the ingredients above, I thought it was toxic in dogs?

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 08:50:19 GMT

[quote user="Utlendigur"]

Ingredients

Purified water, Glycerine, Xylitol, Polysorbate 20, Potassium sorbate, Emilgase (enzyme), Zinc gluconate, Sodium benzoate, FD&C Blue No. 1, FD&C Yellow No. 5, Chlorhexidine gluconate

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That is odd. I have a bottle in front of me. It doesn't list all the ingredients but says, "Composition: Glycerine, xylitol (0.6%). It makes no mention of chlorhexidine anywhere!

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 22:24:23 GMT

[quote user="Rob Davis"]

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]Or abandon chlorhexidine for now, and use Maxiguard.[/quote]

I looked into Maxiguard a little while ago and was unconvinced.... am I missing something?

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I don't think so

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Utlendigur — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:49:31 GMT

[quote user="Rob Davis"]I've just checked on a bottle on our shelf and chlorhexidine is not listed on the label.[/quote]

That's odd. Not at work today so just went off listed ingredients on t'internet and US virbac site (UK one didn't list them) - maybe US one is different?

https://www.viovet.co.uk/Vet_Aquadent_Anti_Plaque_Solution/c1291/?pk_campaign=AdWords-1209&pk_kwd=vet%20aquadent&oa_matchtype=e&oa_advert=3470&oa_network=g&gclid=COXPh6TcrdACFQoB0wod7ngJAg

Ingredients

Purified water, Glycerine, Xylitol, Polysorbate 20, Potassium sorbate, Emilgase (enzyme), Zinc gluconate, Sodium benzoate, FD&C Blue No. 1, FD&C Yellow No. 5, Chlorhexidine gluconate

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:59:47 GMT

[quote user="Utlendigur"]

[quote user="Rob Davis"]

[quote user="Utlendigur"]

Vet Aquadent from Virbac?

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Contains xylitol not CHX

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According to the list of components it contains CHX aswell

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I've just checked on a bottle on our shelf and chlorhexidine is not listed on the label.

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:58:01 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]Or abandon chlorhexidine for now, and use Maxiguard.[/quote]

I looked into Maxiguard a little while ago and was unconvinced.... am I missing something?

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Loxley — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:16:24 GMT

how about Corsodyl Alcohol Free Mouthwash - 300ml; 0.2% chlorhexidine

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:13:56 GMT

[quote user="Rob Davis"]

In the continued absence of hexarinse, I am trying to source chlorhexidine to dilute into an appropriate oral rinse to give to clients. I am struggling to find anything which doesn't contain surfactants etc for skinh prep. Does anyone know where I can get some?

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Hibitane.

Or Corsodyl.

Or mix up chlorhexidine gel dentifrice with water.

Or abandon chlorhexidine for now, and use Maxiguard.

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Utlendigur — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:46:29 GMT

[quote user="Rob Davis"]

[quote user="Utlendigur"]

Vet Aquadent from Virbac?

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Contains xylitol not CHX

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According to the list of components it contains CHX aswell

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:27:17 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

Why bother, its doesn't do any good anyway. At the dilution it would work its too toxic, at lower dilutions it is little more than a placebo giving the owner something to do. The only thing that really counts is brushing. And that is from the horse's mouth - well Norman Johnston. I'm sure Evelyn will have an opinion on this.

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Chlorhexidine is one of ther very few things other than brushing which has some evidence behind it. There is a good deal of evidence for the efficacy of CHX against plaque bacteria at concentrations of 0.12-0.2% (at which toxicity is not an issue). I agree that brushing is the gold standard, and generally I use CHX rinses alongside brushing for patients with particular plaque sensitivity (such as CUPS cases).

Any useful suggestions?

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Rob Davis — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:24:16 GMT

[quote user="Utlendigur"]

Vet Aquadent from Virbac?

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Contains xylitol not CHX

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:21:49 GMT

RE: Chlorhexidine solution

Utlendigur — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:20:25 GMT

Vet Aquadent from Virbac?