Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Gillian Mostyn — Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:09:01 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"] It just means you don't get a decomposing body under the floor boards)[/quote]

That, and not having nasty poisons and traps all over the place if you also have animals or small children around.

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Martin Atkinson — Sat, 05 Nov 2016 10:55:54 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

You're not supposed to let the mice go......

(you do know that? It just means you don't get a decomposing body under the floor boards)

[/quote]I had a client rush in with an emergency dying rat she'd poisoned and wanted me to save its life. You couldn't make that up could you?

My daughter's hamster once escaped and was at large under the floorboards for several days, I finally caught it with a humane trap.

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Michael Woodhouse — Fri, 04 Nov 2016 23:55:03 GMT

[quote user="Luca Poddighe"]P.S. If you're interested don't waste your time, they don't work and if they work the mouse will come back in your house unless you release him far faraway!!![/quote]

You're not supposed to let the mice go......

(you do know that? It just means you don't get a decomposing body under the floor boards)

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Luca Poddighe — Fri, 04 Nov 2016 16:43:27 GMT

I seem to recall that they product some mice traps that don't kill the mouse under that name too.

http://www.stvpestcontrol.com/The-Big-Cheese-Catch-Alive/PD/154/32/1/default.html

P.S. If you're interested don't waste your time, they don't work and if they work the mouse will come back in your house unless you release him far faraway!!!

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 17:20:10 GMT

Well having finally heard it from the horse's mouth, it appears that The Big Cheese bait this cat may or may not have consumed does not contain difenacoum. There are number of different products which do but this one doesn't. So panic over, cat is getting better and we can stop the Vit K. Should have known better than trust JGW!

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Martin Atkinson — Tue, 01 Nov 2016 14:07:58 GMT

[quote user="Kate Richardson"]One blood transfusion later, (done in an interesting fashion and not per any recognised guidelines[/quote]Sounds a bit like a dog with a haemo-abdomen I auto transfused with the blood I took out by abdo-centesis - strangely it doesn't clot. It had a ruptured splenic carcinoma which I no doubt seeded nicely but it was going to die anyway so at least it got another couple of months.

[quote user="Kate Richardson"] could you supplement via sc injection instead of oral? Could owner inject?[/quote]No. Interestingly I read that difenacoum is a lot less toxic to dogs and cats than other anticoagulant poisons and the amount a cat would eat is unlikely to kill it.

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Kate Richardson — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 19:46:16 GMT

The onset of action can be incredibly quick- I remember a cat in Australia that presented with a persistently bleeding puncture wound on its lower limb. Treated as cat bite wound initially until it passed blue faeces- had obviously ingested a baited rodent. One blood transfusion later, (done in an interesting fashion and not per any recognised guidelines due to lack of equipment) and cat fully recovered. So I would keep the Vit k going for a while, could you supplement via sc injection instead of oral? Could owner inject?

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Martin Atkinson — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 16:50:45 GMT

[quote user="bob lehner"]

Call VPIS if you are a subscriber.

I have always found them incredibly helpful with information and advice.

[/quote]Having established the active ingredient there is no problem in deciding the treatment we're just not sure if the cat took the bait or not. I've sent a blood sample for difenacoum toxicology but apparently unless you take the sample within a couple of hours on ingestion its left the blood. We think we got it within that time frame so if it comes back +ve bingo but if its -ve still can't be sure. Meanwhile the cat will stay on Vit K tablets albeit the owner is having difficulty giving them. I will check prothrombin time after we've stopped.

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

bob lehner — Sun, 30 Oct 2016 16:54:29 GMT

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RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

Martin Atkinson — Fri, 28 Oct 2016 18:14:34 GMT

[quote user="J G Wray"]

contains difenacoum

[/quote]Thanks Jonathon. It is very negligent of them not to put the active ingredient on the packaging just says contains powdered corn cob. I've since looked on the website at the data sheet. I'm not convinced its the same product but its now had some Vit K until I can make further enquiries.

RE: Possible rodent bait ingestion in a cat

J G Wray — Fri, 28 Oct 2016 17:32:22 GMT

contains difenacoum