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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>greyhound digit dislocation</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/24827/greyhound-digit-dislocation</link><description> Hi anyone got any ideas re a 10 yr old greyhound dislocated R hind digit 4 P1-P2 joint. Catch is that it did digit 5 last year (same foot) and it wouldnt stay in place so we amputated digit 5. Has done well up to now. Not insured but would have funds</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: greyhound digit dislocation</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/165404?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:52:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0c4d7091-7ff4-4d69-a496-29ef3419410d</guid><dc:creator>James Dunne</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Mike is &amp;#39;the man&amp;#39; where greyhounds are concerned. I find him very helpful and generous with his time; maybe give him a shout. If the greyhound is racing then you&amp;#39;ve to weigh up whether you can get them merely racing again or winning again - two different things! Or if it is a pet as already mentioned, then pain relief and functional pain-free limb use are the aims.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: greyhound digit dislocation</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/165398?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:21:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:086dfbbe-10a0-4d30-985f-1fddab04b060</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;mariette asselbergs&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had one over the last weekend and just popped it back in and bandaged it up and thought that was job done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now I realise this is a challenging condition..... Or may be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]I would stick my neck out and say Mike Guilliard is probably the foremost expert on greyhound toe injuries in the UK so his advice rocks and he never ceases to remind me of this but then he is a best friend so I can tell him to shut up and heckle him in lectures he gives!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However he is dealing with racing greyhounds and it maybe what you have done is adequate if it is a pet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: greyhound digit dislocation</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/165396?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:53:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3f5e917e-ef6e-4c94-a09a-5727f0a0f08f</guid><dc:creator>mariette asselbergs</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Wow thanks Martin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had one over the last weekend and just popped it back in and bandaged it up and thought that was job done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now I realise this is a challenging condition..... Or may be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mariette&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: greyhound digit dislocation</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/165391?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:25:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b2316088-bd91-4a00-b2be-d58c6b95eaa1</guid><dc:creator>Lindsey Edwards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Have had great success with ESF, warn and expect infection/swelling etc but heals despite/because of inflammation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: greyhound digit dislocation</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/165379?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:34:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0bd19edc-c72a-4fa2-9164-1ba0b42a096b</guid><dc:creator>Gareth C.</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;cheers for that, esf sounds OK to do . &amp;nbsp;They&amp;#39;re in the waiting room now so good timing Martin.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: greyhound digit dislocation</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/165377?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:23:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2a9dd3e9-ec6a-4bb5-b022-d147c25c1dd5</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Here is an extract from some course notes by Mike Guiiliard CertSAO, FRCVS, maybe some help:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Phalangeal instabilities.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;These can occur at any of the digital joints (metacarpal/tarsal/phalangeal,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;P1/2 and P2/3) and are classified as stable or unstable. There may also be&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;avulsion fractures of the collateral ligaments. The principle of treatment is to&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;maintain the joint in normal congruity for a period of time (3 weeks) to allow&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the sufficient build up of periarticular fibrosis. Stable joints can usually be&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;managed by external coaptation with possible nail shortening to reduce the&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;lever arm. The permanent surgical removal of the nail (ungual crest) is&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;desirable in cases of gross instability and in cases of P1/P2 subluxation&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;affecting the central digits.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ungual crest removal:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The skin at the base of the nail is circumcised and using bone cutters the nail&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;is removed below skin level. The remnants of the nail bed can be visualised&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and removed with rongeurs. Sufficient bone removal is achieved when the&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;skin can be easily closed over the bone stump.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In a prospective study in racing Greyhounds by the author, 21 cases of ungual&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;crest removal resulted in only one complication, P2/3 ankylosis, that lead to a&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;paw pad corn developing. Potential complications include: dorsal joint&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;penetration, nail regrowth and infection from insufficient nail bed removal.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;P2/3 instability:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;This usually responds well to ungual crest removal and only in a gross&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;instability is a tacking suture necessary in the remnants of the ruptured&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;collateral ligament. The differential diagnoses of P2/3 swelling are&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;osteomyelitis and septic arthritis, a joint tap will show excessive amounts of&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;neutrophils.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;P1/2 instability:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Historically this challenging condition has been treated with a variety of&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;methods including pin firing, blistering, prosthetic ligament replacement and&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ligament reconstruction. In the author&amp;rsquo;s experience none has given consistent&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;results. Prosthetic ligament replacement at best, only hold the joint in normal&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;congruity allowing the development of fibrosis. Accurate placement is difficult&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and can not mimic the natural broad collateral ligament.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ligament reconstruction is fraught as the damaged ligament may be avulsed&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and is always badly frayed. Again at best, this technique maintains congruity&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;while periarticular fibrosis occurs.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The simplest way of maintaining congruity is by placing a 2:2 ESF dorsoabaxially&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;with 2 x 1.4mm pins into both P1 and P2 and connected with acrylic&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(Guilliard 2003). Complications are common but generally not serious. Pin&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;tract infection leading to osteomyelitis with thickening of the digit resolves&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;after pin removal and prophylactic antibiosis will reduce the incidence.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Impingement of other digits can occur from poor pin placement. Some dogs&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;will not tolerate the frame and will bite off the acrylic connecting bar. Fracture&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;of P1 occurred during pin placement in a Whippet.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In a prospective study of 19 racing Greyhounds all returned to racing with&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;stable joints.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>