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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/24205/protocol-for-insulinoma-ga</link><description> 8y5m FE GSD, was in for hindlimb radiographs last week to investigate hindlimb weakness but PABs showed a glucose of 1.92mmol/L, confirmed on an alphatrack 2 glucometer, so GA was abandoned. I&amp;#39;m awaiting serum insulin from Idexx, but the dog hasn&amp;#39;t been</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/160445?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:16:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:528fe5fd-6346-42fa-9199-837968c1a719</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry Tim, I think rather than the final diagnosis it was the progression of the case that was more interesting. The dog presented with signs that would indicate an insulinoma, though insulin wasn&amp;#39;t above the reference range it was inappropriately high. Original histopath reports (and I got them double checked) were insistent that it was a carcinoma of the exocrine pancreas.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This didn&amp;#39;t fit the clinical picture as blood glucose normalised after surgery so we investigated further and the diagnosis has since changed to carcinoma of endocrine pancreas. The suggestion of writing the case up was by Iain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/160415?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:53:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0ffed235-120f-4e89-838d-bcab9afe7fdf</guid><dc:creator>Tim Charlesworth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I may be missing something here (perfectly possible) but canine Insulinoma is usually malignant (most carcinoma) and by definition is endocrine and so I&amp;#39;m not sure what the novel aspect of this one is? Sorry - not meant to sound critical but I don&amp;#39;t see why this would be written up/published?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tim&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/160408?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:04:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:cb48a859-1977-4157-bc96-9d1148665300</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Just an update on this case - I spoke to Iain Grant at NorthWest Surgeons who couldn&amp;#39;t believe that it was a carcinoma as normally buyt the time they are detected there are gross metastases throughout the abdomen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Immunohistochemistry was done and results are as below:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;IMMUNOHISTOCHEMICAL RESULTS&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The neoplastic cells show a moderate to strong and diffuse&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;cytoplasmic positive immunolabeling for endocrine markers&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;chromogranin A and synaptophysin. In addition, approximately&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;the 10% of neoplastic cells show a strong cytoplasmic positive&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;immunolabeling for cytokeratin (epithelial marker).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;INTERPRETATION&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;On the basis of the results of the immunohistochemical&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;analysis, this is a carcinoma of neuroendocrine origin. These&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;changes, along with the clinical presentation of the disease&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;(e.g. low glucose and increased insulinemia) support the&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;definitive diagnosis of insulin secreting tumour (insulinoma).&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Considering the degree of tissue infiltration, this is&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;considered an islet cell carcinoma. This tumour can&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;metastasize to regional lymph nodes (e.g. duodenal,&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;mesenteric, hepatic and splenic) and distant sites (liver,&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;mesentery).&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So, it was a carcinoma, but of endocrine rather than exocrine pancreas. In the past week the dog has started becoming hypoglycaemic again so we suspect either a regrowth of the tumour or metastases. Plan is to start low dose prednisolone to help with the hypoglycaemia, and speak to the owner about starting on doxorubicin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as Iain is aware, this is the first case he has ever heard of with this presentation and type of tumour, so I may write it up at some point.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/158405?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2016 11:21:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ab2acf60-b1de-4496-ad3c-97082dc88457</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/members/gerrypolton" class="internal-link view-user-profile"&gt;Gerry Polton&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;is there a specific protocol you would recommend? Is it worth pursuing chemo given that there is no sign of spread?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/158398?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2016 09:50:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d5a6b6b4-93bb-4a4e-83b0-b38e9c03a3cd</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Histopath report is back (see below). Good news is on the CT and ultrasound scans we did prior to the ex-lap there was no sign of spread. So, chemotherapy time I think!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;DIAGNOSIS&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Pancreatic carcinoma, acinar or ductal cell in origin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; PROGNOSIS&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Guarded to poor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; CLINICAL HISTORY&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; History of constantly low glucose (below 5) and&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; seizure. High insulin is also reported (ref n 1003169075).&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; There is a nodule in the pancreas and multiple nodules on the&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; small intestine. Neoplasia with spread suspected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; HISTOLOGY&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Right limb of pancreas with nodule. Blocks A to C) one section&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; each (in C section of the nodule). In the sections of blocks A&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; and B, the exocrine and endocrine pancreas are unremarkable. In&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; the section of block C, there is a well demarcated,&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; unencapsulated neoplastic proliferation of polygonal cells&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; arranged in cords and irregular tubules and supported by&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; abundant desmoplastic stroma. The cells have scant amounts of&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; eosinophilic cytoplasm, round to oval nuclei with finely&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; stippled chromatin and one nucleolus occasionally prominent.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anisocytosis and anisokaryosis are moderate. Mitoses are&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; atypical, 0-2 per high power filed (40x).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Serosal (jejunum) nodule. Block D) I have asked to examine&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; another section in order to better characterize the lesion.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; This does not look like a metastases of the carcinoma.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; COMMENT&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; In the pancreas of Lexia there is a carcinoma of the exocrine&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; pancreas. This might arise from the acinar cells or, more&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; likely in my opinion, from the pancreatic ducts. Pancreatic&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; carcinoma is an aggressive and metastasizing disease. You can&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; discuss this case with an oncologist. Check of the lymph nodes&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; and distant sites to exclude metastases is recommended.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/158219?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2016 19:32:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:779119f5-29a1-4770-a0da-6e2978c2c996</guid><dc:creator>Emily Rainbow</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting case Dennison!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/158142?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 16:22:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3136b7e5-8348-4b93-8396-efa0d0b0b669</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Update on this case:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CT showed no mets, however for some reason the cranial abdomen was missed off so couldn&amp;#39;t exactly say whether there was a mass or not. Plan was to repeat CT FOC, with our machine we can perform an angiogram by giving the contrast at the start of the scan.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However she collapsed on Wednesday night and had hypoglycaemic seizures. 24 hours on a glucose drip later, during which time we had an ultrasonographer come in to scan her (nothing found), we ex-lapped her this morning.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Small, approx 1.5cm diameter nodule in the middle of the pancreas. Where it was we had to removed the right limb. During surgery I noticed some white nodules/plaques on the serosal surface of the intestines - just the odd one approx 1-2mm diameter dotted around, so I scraped one off to go for histo too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now to await results!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/157554?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2016 16:44:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:706cc152-98ed-4fee-9769-99d3528fcb64</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Update:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Insulin came back as 25.4, within the reference range (5-40) but according to one of the Idexx internal medics, still high relative to the blood glucose reading.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dog is booked in for a CT scan on Thursday. I&amp;#39;ll let you know the results!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/157496?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2016 09:56:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:76aa71cb-761a-471a-937d-27a67b9a3190</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Kent</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;the sensitivity of ex-lap for the primary lesion is high, but for metastatic disease is low.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The point of imaging these cases is not to confirm diagnosis (I agree that in many cases we can be fairly certain from bloods etc) it&amp;#39;s to assess for location of mass (and therefore possibility of resection) and mets.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and CT can answer that question in a much quicker and less invasive way than anything else.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/157473?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:11:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0de91589-e7ad-441f-8a82-c1bc8a74943c</guid><dc:creator>grumpyoldman</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Andrew Kent&amp;quot;]The sensitivity of ultrasound for insulinoma varies with different studies but is likely to only be 35-50% so you could try it but wouldnt be too optimistic.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Won&amp;#39;t that depend on the machine and the operator?.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is the sensitivity of an Ex lap ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the insulin is high and the glucose persistently low , and there are no other &amp;quot; big liver masses &amp;quot; given the age of animal etc what else could it be ? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/157394?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 20:01:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e3afda88-080e-4a30-b5fa-f5896694f482</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Kent</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Anthony Dennison&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Andrew Kent&amp;quot;]CT is so quick that you will probably be fine, I would typically image on a different occasion to surgery in order to plan better for the procedure. Remember for insulinoma that the CT should be an arterial phase to have a good chance of picking up a mass which requires use of a timed pressure injection.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately we have one of the new BCF CT scanners, which is cone-beam rather than helical or spiral and therefore we can only get venous phase. Would an experienced ultrasonographer be able to pick something up, or am I better referring somewhere that can do arterial phase CT?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suppose that depends whether multiple imaging modalities would be possible. The sensitivity of ultrasound for insulinoma varies with different studies but is likely to only be 35-50% so you could try it but wouldnt be too optimistic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Equally standard CT can pick up 60-70% of cases but dual phase CT detects nearly all cases if performed correctly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/157356?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:04:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b4d611ba-eb50-4cd6-a394-f678f25689c6</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Andrew Kent&amp;quot;]CT is so quick that you will probably be fine, I would typically image on a different occasion to surgery in order to plan better for the procedure. Remember for insulinoma that the CT should be an arterial phase to have a good chance of picking up a mass which requires use of a timed pressure injection.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately we have one of the new BCF CT scanners, which is cone-beam rather than helical or spiral and therefore we can only get venous phase. Would an experienced ultrasonographer be able to pick something up, or am I better referring somewhere that can do arterial phase CT?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/157312?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:58:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0e66f207-d1dc-4567-a4a7-76d78c263abb</guid><dc:creator>Thomas Johnson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Andrew Kent&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi Anthony,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The key with insulinoma GA&amp;nbsp;is monitoring and responding to what you find. I don&amp;#39;t routinely give IV glucose (as that triggers more insulin release) but use it as needed depending on frequent BG measurement. Obviously starve for as little period as possible and get eating as soon as possible afterwards.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This article in the Veterinary Times suggests using medetomidine as part of the protocol as it is an insulin antagonist:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.vettimes.co.uk/article/anaesthesia-for-patients-with-endocrine-diseases/&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/157293?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:59:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:381c5635-bf05-403f-8130-c19fadac92ef</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Kent</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Anthony,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The key with insulinoma GA&amp;nbsp;is monitoring and responding to what you find. I don&amp;#39;t routinely give IV glucose (as that triggers more insulin release) but use it as needed depending on frequent BG measurement. Obviously starve for as little period as possible and get eating as soon as possible afterwards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CT is so quick that you will probably be fine, I would typically image on a different occasion to surgery in order to plan better for the procedure. Remember for insulinoma that the CT should be an arterial phase to have a good chance of picking up a mass which requires use of a timed pressure injection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Protocol for Insulinoma GA</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/157280?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 00:01:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:bd714a60-afbc-4565-a36c-223d5acb31cf</guid><dc:creator>grumpyoldman</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have seen and operated on 5 of these over about 30 years , the last one carried on meds free for 5 years ,if your sure just go for the ex lap and feel for the nodule. My last one presented as a collapsing hindlimb weakness but also had those odd muscle fasiculations and tremors that are so odd. The histo report was grim ,but the expected mets never happened. CT + contrast probably a good idea though pre op. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>