Sanos

RE: Sanos

Karin Hold — Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:54:40 GMT

You can also ask Norman Johnston, RCVS, American & European Specialist in Veterinary Dentistry, DentalVets, North Berwick. He has experience with the product SANOS.

RE: Sanos

Kate Richardson — Sun, 05 Feb 2017 23:55:14 GMT

I will chase up my cases x

RE: Sanos

Miriam Lodewyks — Sun, 05 Feb 2017 14:44:40 GMT

Interested to hear if anyone has any further experiences wrt this product, that they could share?

Kate Richardson?

RE: Sanos

Bob Russell — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:15:59 GMT

Resurrecting a thread. Is this stuff worth using? Which specific cases should be selected?

Will this end up going down the same route as ProVseal?

Adequate quality dentistry is already time consuming and therefore costly!

RE: Sanos

Anthony Todd — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:15:25 GMT

I'm no vet dentist but I've seen a lot of animals with the signs described.

I always suggested a major diet change/trial mainly to change the oral mileau.

[works brilliantly for severe canine halitosis.....]

Worked well quite often; eg potato for biscuit, change protein source etc etc.

Seems to me that painting any liquid on dried fragile painful gums with a small soft ladies cosmetic brush might be easier and less painful than any rubbing.

I know already I've gone where angels fear to tread, so daren't mention the obvious guaranteed treatment for undiagnosed non specific inflammation.

RE: Sanos

Karin Hold — Sun, 20 Nov 2016 23:24:48 GMT

Kate and all,

A great way to quickly learn how to apply SANOS is to watch Dr. Peter Emily’s instructional YouTube video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbuJSeVjLHE.

Apply SANOS under the gum line after the professional dental cleaning.

SANOS is not for stopping plaque on the crown of the tooth. SANOS is for protecting the gingiva and gingival sulcus, the most important area to aid in the prevention of periodontal disease.

RE: Sanos

Rob Davis — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 08:52:33 GMT

[quote user="Kate Richardson"]I've got 2 cases I have treated with Sanos in the past 6months who I am following to assess it's efficacy[/quote]

Please let us know in due course what you think of it.

RE: Sanos

Kate Richardson — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 17:22:46 GMT

I've got 2 cases I have treated with Sanos in the past 6months who I am following to assess it's efficacy. I didn't think it was hideously expensive, but its not somethiong to splash around on any old case. Both cases marked gingivitis/plaque/tartar building up with no underlying pathology which despite daily brushing required a descaling procedure approx every 6-9 months, so if this product does delay the build up (alongside continued homecare) then it becomes cost effective and also means less anaesthetics for the animal which has to be a good thing.

RE: Sanos

Rob Davis — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:06:06 GMT

Martin, Dentisept and Sanos are completely different products, applied in different ways with different aims. They are not comparible.

I have used sanos once. I agree with Evelyn that I would like to see some larger studies before being convinced, particularly as it is expensive. If it was considerably cheaper then I would consider using it more often, but at the current cost, with limited evidence of efficacy I can't justify it.

RE: Sanos

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:16:52 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]

Karin, perhaps I should add I do use Sanos in selected cases and have been moderately pleased with it. And I do know fairly well what I am talking about.

[/quote]Evelyn, I used Dentisept for a while and found it relatively easy to apply in an anaesthetised animal and potentially useful but universally useless trying to apply prophylactically as it either just stuck to the operators finger or clogged up the tip of the applicator on first contact with a some saliva. Its bad enough doing anything in a recalcitrant animal's mouth let alone using something that is doing its best to defeat you as well! How in your experience does Sanos compare?

RE: Sanos

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:57:24 GMT

Karin, perhaps I should add I do use Sanos in selected cases and have been moderately pleased with it. And I do know fairly well what I am talking about.

RE: Sanos

Martin Atkinson — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:50:05 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]Given the difficulty of getting anything to adhere to enamel, without special preparation and especially in a wet environment, and the difficulty of getting anything to adhere for long to soft tissue especially in a wet environment; I really feel this needs considerable further explanation.[/quote]Pretty well wot I said without the detail but got one starred for it.

RE: Sanos

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 14:28:04 GMT

[quote user="Karin Hold"]

Dear Evelyn,

In regards to adherence, the polymers include multiple binding sites designed to attach to the surface of enamel and gingiva keeping the polymers on the site where they are placed.

Because the polymers are proprietary, I cannot disclose this further.

[/quote]

Given the difficulty of getting anything to adhere to enamel, without special preparation and especially in a wet environment, and the difficulty of getting anything to adhere for long to soft tissue especially in a wet environment; I really feel this needs considerable further explanation.

RE: Sanos

Martin Atkinson — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:39:25 GMT

If it works as well as Dentisept gel it will do sweet FA. Nice idea but useless in practice.

RE: Sanos

Karin Hold — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 01:16:30 GMT

Dear Evelyn,

In regards to adherence, the polymers include multiple binding sites designed to attach to the surface of enamel and gingiva keeping the polymers on the site where they are placed.

Because the polymers are proprietary, I cannot disclose this further.

RE: Sanos

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:46:44 GMT

Are we allowed to know what the polymers are?

What keeps it adhered to the tooth?

I'm familiar with the paper, of course, though it would be good to see a much larger study.

RE: Sanos

Karin Hold — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:40:23 GMT

Evelyn, thanks for your question.

SANOS is a solution of polymers in water and ethyl alcohol that is professionally applied with dental brushes to the gingival line and gingival sulcus.

The primary function of the polymers is to block plaque from attaching to the gingival line and gingival sulcus.

The SANOS polymer is hydrophilic with pores that are designed to allow water and oxygen to pass through resulting in an unfavorable environment for anaerobic organisms.

For more detail, see the peer-reviewed publication: C. Sitzman, Evaluation of a hydrophilic gingival dental sealant in beagle dogs. J Vet Dent 2013; 30 (3): 150-155.

RE: Sanos

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:31:51 GMT

Share with us now, Karin. What is Sanos, exactly? Of course I know what it's for, what it is supposed to do, how to use it, but what are its chemical constituents and what, technically, is its mode of action?

RE: Sanos

Karin Hold — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:21:08 GMT

SANOS is available in the UK and Ireland through:

Centaur, Henry Schein and iM3 Dental.

For people interested in learning more about SANOS, the gingival dental sealant, stop by at the London Vet Show 2016 Stand F20 or email us at sanos@allaccem.com. We have an educational SANOS dental presentation we can share with you including some Frequently Asked Questions.

Website www.allaccem.com

RE: Sanos

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 00:31:04 GMT

Yes, that would be my attitude.

The dog could still have Hill's TD: I don't believe that does anything at the gum line. Just my opinion of course.

RE: Sanos

Kate Richardson — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:06:01 GMT

So, I treated the dog with Sanos a week ago, can the owner still brush the teeth/use t/d etc now? Or better to [quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"] "brushing" with the finger – exactly the same action as "massaging the gums". With something gloopier than the dreaded Dentipet..... Corsodyl, Maxiguard, for instance.[/quote] as you mentioned before?

RE: Sanos

Kate Richardson — Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:34:09 GMT

Phew! Thought I'd made the right decision, so good to hear so. Thankyou for the advice

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Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:46:51 GMT

Ah yes, that's the sort of case I'd reserve it for.

It comes in single-unit boxes. One bottle of stuff and four applicators, one for each quadrant.

Xrays of course. Try not literally brushing but "brushing" with the finger – exactly the same action as "massaging the gums". With something gloopier than the dreaded Dentipet..... Corsodyl, Maxiguard, for instance.

RE: Sanos

Kate Richardson — Tue, 26 Apr 2016 09:24:30 GMT

So it comes in a box of 4 vials I think, £33 to us- do you tend to need all 4 for 1 dog or more/less than that? Its for a 6yo dog with marked gingivitis who has had 2 scale and polish treatments in the past 12 months and only 3 months since the last one, there is already marked ginigivitis and plaque/tartar build up despite owner home care. mainly using Dentispet gel and is Canine t/d diet, cannot brush as gums bleeding very easily and dog resents it. I can get some photos, but what would your plan of action be? I thought I would take xrays and treat as appropriate and scale/polish again, followed by Sanos if no pathology on xrays?- if you have any other thoughts it would be much appreciated. O is very compliant.

RE: Sanos

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Fri, 22 Apr 2016 20:19:38 GMT

Well, it's a stock item at Centaur so I would imagine any of the wholesalers are the same.

Just follow the instructions in the box.

It's horribly expensive.