Lungworm prevention

RE: Lungworm prevention

Hannah Wynne Richards — Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:15:09 GMT

You've got it!

Wynne

RE: Lungworm prevention

Thomas Johnson — Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:26:47 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"] 1/2 strength for an extended period is licensed for lungworm.[/quote]In the data sheet in NOAH Panacur is licenced for the prevention of Filaroides at 50mg/2kg q 7 days which is full dose there is no mention of Angiostrongylus at all let alone using it at half dose which would be 10mg/4kg. I am playing devils advocate because I use it for the treatment of Angiostrongylus and it works but just saying strictly speaking it is off licence

[/quote]

I wonder if by half dose Wynne means 50mg/kg daily, as licensed for giardia, aelurostrongylus, oslerus osleris, puppies, kittens and pregnant bitches, rather than 100mg/kg as licensed for a single dose to treat adult animals for roundworms. I agree that while it is very effective for angiostrongylus it is not licensed for treating it.

RE: Lungworm prevention

Hannah Wynne Richards — Sun, 20 Mar 2016 07:42:37 GMT

I know it was disseminated through the profession at the time. I'm not sure if published, or merely spread by word of mouth by the reps. I'll try to find out. I think (am not sure ) that it's Martin who was surprised at the time to find the SA postcode did so well - when we have a horrendous reputation for poor parasite control.

Wynne

RE: Lungworm prevention

ruths — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 17:40:06 GMT

Did they publish it, Wynne?

it would be interesting to read...

RE: Lungworm prevention

Hannah Wynne Richards — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:57:08 GMT

I wrote eggs, but they also examined for larvae - in fact for any evidence of parasites. Sorry to have been vague.

Wynne

RE: Lungworm prevention

Rob Loxley — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 13:52:53 GMT

[quote user="nobbygonzo"] Asking for Bravecto so looking for a new tick/lungworm combination[/quote]

Bravecto every 12 weeks and milbemax every 4 weeks

[quote user="nobbygonzo"]someone mentioned a new licence for lungworm imminent but which drug?[/quote]

Nexgard Spectra contains milbemycin (like milbemax) but no current lungworm prevention claim

RE: Lungworm prevention

Emily Rainbow — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:21:48 GMT

Monthly advocate and advantix may be an option (2wks apart) if no cats around?

i use advocate monthly and use a seresto collar as one flat collar is allowed for agility. (I take her normal collar off before running)

RE: Lungworm prevention

ruths — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:14:50 GMT

Surely they would be looking for larvae in the case of lungworm?

there was an interesting paper on diagnosis of lungworm by feacal smear - I seem to remember it was around 50-70% sensitivIty. Makes it worthwhile in clinic as if you get a positive, then it's positive... But a negative didnt mean there was no infection.

I was recommended panacur at 50mg/kg daily for 7 days as a treatment for lungworm about 10yrs ago. There was no evidence to say it was effective other than the fact that they used this as the measure by which to evaluate moxidectin..

it maybe off licence, but the dose is an accepted one and is the same one recommended for giardia

RE: Lungworm prevention

Hannah Wynne Richards — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 11:35:35 GMT

Martin - it works!

A few tears ago Merial did a national survey. They asked some practices to ask randomly selected clients for dog faeces samples. My practice was the one in the Swansea area. I'm pro-active about worming, and my clients were truly randomly selected - they were asked as they walked through the door.

The survey produced some interesting exotic species in some areas, but no worm eggs at all in the SA postcode area!

Wynne (patting herself on the back)

RE: Lungworm prevention

Stuart Jackson — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 11:13:31 GMT

[quote user="nobbygonzo"](or occasionally Milbemax off licence[/quote]

Do you mean "occasionally" determines that you are using Milbemax off license, or that Milbemax is used off licence per se.

Because it is licensed

RE: Lungworm prevention

Martin Atkinson — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 10:40:53 GMT

RE: Lungworm prevention

Hannah Wynne Richards — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 10:07:03 GMT

Yes, it's off label for 7 days, but 1/2 strength for an extended period is licensed for lungworm.

Wynne

RE: Lungworm prevention

Martin Atkinson — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 09:54:16 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]I find 1/2 strength panacur for 7 days alternate months [/quote]Are you not concerned about inducing drug resistance using this at incorrect dosage Wynne? I really don't know if its likely but you are going well off label.

RE: Lungworm prevention

Hannah Wynne Richards — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 09:51:32 GMT

You've got to give 1/2 dose panacur for 21 days to treat lungworm, but I find 1/2 strength panacur for 7 days alternate months (OK slightly over the 7 week pre-patent period) very effective for prevention - and I'm in a high risk area.

Wynne

RE: Lungworm prevention

Martin Atkinson — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 09:51:03 GMT

There is already a discussion on this in the thread 'Advocate and Ticks'