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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>21 polo horses that died post-injection</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/2404/21-polo-horses-that-died-post-injection</link><description> Re: the 21 polo horses that died post-injection in florida, I think there are several issues that are relevant. First, the horses did not receive Biodyl, which is a European labelled vitamin and mineral supplement. They received an injection of a product</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: 21 polo horses that died post-injection</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/4099?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:26:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:41dfea40-179a-4822-b8b8-5d5b51944378</guid><dc:creator>The SkepVet</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;there are two click on&amp;#39;s when you post here, one click on for question the other click on discussion. I clicked on discussion because I&amp;nbsp;am&amp;nbsp; skeptical&amp;nbsp;that the majority of vets in the USA&amp;nbsp;really want the FDA to leave us alone while&amp;nbsp;we juice/jug&amp;nbsp;our patients?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;Got the information below from the americal association of equine practitioners&amp;nbsp;website which confuses the issue for me&amp;nbsp;how the law in the USA applys to these 21&amp;nbsp;polo pony deaths&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;quote &amp;quot;Compounding is not permitted by the FDA but as&lt;br /&gt;long as everyone plays by the rules, the government will&lt;br /&gt;exercise what it calls discretionary&lt;br /&gt;enforcement. (They will leave us&lt;br /&gt;alone.)&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Enforcement Discretion&lt;br /&gt;COMPOUNDING IS NOT permitted by the FDA..&lt;br /&gt;however,&lt;br /&gt;FDA recognizes that veterinarians often compound drugs and therefore exercises its&lt;br /&gt;ENFORCEDMENT discretion to permit compounding&lt;br /&gt;FDAs Compounding Policy&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://www.fda.gov/ora/compliance_ref/cpg/" title="http://www.fda.gov/ora/compliance_ref/cpg/"&gt;www.fda.gov/ora/compliance_ref/cpg/&lt;/a&gt;) (rev 7/14/03)&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;So here is what we have: under strict interpretation of the&lt;br /&gt;law, compounding is illegal, however the government recognizes&lt;br /&gt;the need for compounded products in specific situations.&lt;br /&gt;As such, they have provided these guidelines and as&lt;br /&gt;long as everyone plays by the rules, the government will&lt;br /&gt;exercise what it calls discretionary&lt;br /&gt;enforcement. (They will leave us&lt;br /&gt;alone.)&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;EQUINE VETERINARY EDUCATION / AE / March 2007 iii&lt;br /&gt;our direction and the liability&lt;br /&gt;falls solely on the&lt;br /&gt;prescribing veterinarian.&lt;br /&gt;Should an adverse reaction&lt;br /&gt;occur and you are&lt;br /&gt;found negligent, then&lt;br /&gt;standard of practice&lt;br /&gt;claims for your defense&lt;br /&gt;may not be admissible.&lt;br /&gt;The fact that the use of&lt;br /&gt;compounded drug substitutes&lt;br /&gt;and the off-label&lt;br /&gt;use of medical devices is common practice will not constitute&lt;br /&gt;a viable defense in a malpractice suit. The&lt;br /&gt;AVMA-PLIT has stated their feelings on the use of compounded&lt;br /&gt;medications which can be reviewed at&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://www.avmaplit.com/" title="http://www.avmaplit.com/"&gt;www.avmaplit.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;The amount of product compounded must be commensurate&lt;br /&gt;with the need of the animal identified in the&lt;br /&gt;VCPR-based prescription. You should only order the&lt;br /&gt;specific amount of product you need, for that particular&lt;br /&gt;animal, at the time you need it. You should not order&lt;br /&gt;excess.&lt;br /&gt;All relevant state laws relating to compounding must be&lt;br /&gt;followed. If you do not know your applicable state laws&lt;br /&gt;then call your State Pharmacy Board and get informed.&lt;br /&gt;The expiration date of a compounded drug should be for&lt;br /&gt;the duration of therapy. In other words, if you have a&lt;br /&gt;compounded product that is to be used on a horse for 30&lt;br /&gt;days, at the conclusion of those 30 days, the product has&lt;br /&gt;expired.&lt;br /&gt;Veterinarians cannot use compounded drugs to merely&lt;br /&gt;save money over other FDA-approved available products&lt;br /&gt;that a compounding pharmacy may claim are similar.&lt;br /&gt;There are medical devices for the veterinary field that&lt;br /&gt;are being sold and promoted illegally for off-label use as&lt;br /&gt;drugs for intra-articular or intravenous use for the treatment&lt;br /&gt;of DJD. Claims of this nature should put you on&lt;br /&gt;guard and should steer you away from such compounding&lt;br /&gt;pharmacies for ethical and liability reasons (The&lt;br /&gt;AAEP is currently addressing this issue amongst the&lt;br /&gt;compounding pharmacies relative to their exhibition&lt;br /&gt;status in the annual trade show held during the convention&lt;br /&gt;each year).&lt;br /&gt;The use of compounded medications is a necessary part&lt;br /&gt;of equine practice. The use of compounded medications&lt;br /&gt;should be on an as-needed basis only, keeping on hand&lt;br /&gt;The AAEP Board of Directors is committed to informing&lt;br /&gt;the members on the legal use of compounded medications.&lt;br /&gt;This article follows part 1 (Compounding 101) from last&lt;br /&gt;month with examples to further clarify the principles.&lt;br /&gt;Federal regulations require that in order to compound a&lt;br /&gt;drug legally:&lt;br /&gt;A valid Veterinarian-Client-Patient relationship (VCPR)&lt;br /&gt;must exist. You cannot order compounded drugs for&lt;br /&gt;owners living elsewhere unless their horses are under your&lt;br /&gt;care in your practice.&lt;br /&gt;The health of the animal must be threatened or suffering&lt;br /&gt;or death may result from failure to treat. This is why the&lt;br /&gt;FDA does not allow the compounding of injectable&lt;br /&gt;deslorelin. You cannot make a case that the mare will die&lt;br /&gt;if she doesnt ovulate on time. Additionally, the FDA has&lt;br /&gt;mechanisms in place to allow for importation of&lt;br /&gt;Ovuplant. This also applies for any other drug that you&lt;br /&gt;may desire to have compounded. If the health of the animal&lt;br /&gt;is not threatened, then you cannot get it compounded&lt;br /&gt;legally.&lt;br /&gt;There must be no FDA-approved, commercially available,&lt;br /&gt;animal or human drug that, when used as labeled&lt;br /&gt;or in an extra-label fashion in its available dosage form&lt;br /&gt;and concentration, will appropriately treat the patient.&lt;br /&gt;Oral altrenogest is commercially available and is an&lt;br /&gt;FDA-approved product to be given daily. One may&lt;br /&gt;consider daily dosing inconvenient but inconvenience&lt;br /&gt;does not count as a reason to compound a long-acting&lt;br /&gt;injectable product.&lt;br /&gt;The compounded product must be made from an FDAapproved,&lt;br /&gt;commercially available animal or human drug.&lt;br /&gt;You should not compound phenylbutazone paste&lt;br /&gt;whether its apple-flavored or at twice the concentration&lt;br /&gt;because its already available as an FDA-approved product.&lt;br /&gt;If you do decide to compound your own phenylbutazone&lt;br /&gt;paste, then you are required to make it from the&lt;br /&gt;FDA-approved powder or tabs on the market. The FDA&lt;br /&gt;allows compounding when the approved product is not&lt;br /&gt;in the required concentration, but it is difficult to convince&lt;br /&gt;the FDA that your apple-flavored, compounded&lt;br /&gt;phenylbutazone paste at two times the normal concentration&lt;br /&gt;is needed for the health of the animal.&lt;br /&gt;The product must be compounded by a licensed veterinarian&lt;br /&gt;or a licensed pharmacist on the order of a veterinarian&lt;br /&gt;within the practice of veterinary medicine.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;art malernee dvm&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 21 polo horses that died post-injection</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/4062?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:56:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ec706198-2407-4b35-a788-57ca1d537010</guid><dc:creator>Arlo Guthrie</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Art, this looks like the answer to a question noone has asked. Did you accidentally post it in the wrong forum/website?!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To give some context, I guess you are talking about this incident: &lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/20/21-polo-horses-die-at-flo_n_189086.html"&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/20/21-polo-horses-die-at-flo_n_189086.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>