Moving a deceased pig

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Martin Atkinson — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:43:30 GMT

[quote user="Iain Richards"]So dig a hole (them, not you, although I've dug a few for clients in my time!)[/quote]But have you ever had one phone you in the middle of the night asking you to go and exhume their pet because she thinks ants are making a nest in the dog's head so its spirit won't go to heaven?!

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RE: Moving a deceased pig

Iain Richards — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:24:30 GMT

If it is a pet, then bury it (the minister said so and it's in Hansard). Grey area as it's a farmed species, but so are rabbits. Horse too are buried. So dig a hole (them, not you, although I've dug a few for clients in my time!)

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:22:56 GMT

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was fairly brave in inviting missiles to be flung in my direction, You definitely outclass me in the bravery stakes.

Wynne

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Anthony Dennison — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:17:17 GMT

Any problems with animal by-products regulations, blame my dad. He wrote the guidelines to the most recently updated laws.

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Marie Kubiak — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:07:45 GMT

Oh dear, yet another reason 'pet' pigs are a hassle!!

thanks for the info,

Marie

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Michael Woodhouse — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:06:23 GMT

[quote user="Marie Kubiak"]Can I move it back to practice[/quote]

No. Dead livestock is category 2 waste and must be transported in a sealed container by a licensed company.

[quote user="Marie Kubiak"]and send it for incineration via our usual cremation company?[/quote]

Almost certainly not. Unless they also offer cremation of farm animals. It will need to be a company who collects farm carcases who collects the body.

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Marie Kubiak — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:57:17 GMT

Thank you, that is good to know if she does want to try more aggressive treatment (though I'm not sure it will help this case anyway!)

If the pig is euthanased, it will be done with chemical sedation and pentobarb - clearly it can't enter the food chain or go to the hunt kennels. Can I move it back to practice and send it for incineration via our usual cremation company?

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Michael Woodhouse — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:53:08 GMT

There are no licence issues transporting a pig for veterinary treatment (and no problem if it's not going home again!) There can be issues with disposal and record keeping, but that is not your issue.

Movements for veterinary treatment
Movements to.
All animals may move to premises for veterinary diagnosis or treatment and, in the case of goats, for the collection of semen, irrespective of whether livestock have moved onto the premises of origin in the previous 6 or 20 days (as appropriate. Once at the veterinary treatment centre all animals, except pigs, must be held in complete physical isolation from all other animals present at the premises.
Movements from.
Premises where veterinary diagnosis or treatment is carried out are not subject to standstill period requirements and all animals (including offspring born at the veterinary premises), other than pigs, may return to the premises of origin without triggering a standstill period on their return to the premises, provided that they have been isolated from other animals whilst undergoing veterinary treatment. In the case of pigs, a standstill period will not be triggered on return to their premises of origin provided that they are kept in a Defra approved isolation facility for 20 days from their arrival.

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Marie Kubiak — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:47:13 GMT

APHA have said it probably doesn't need a licence and they aren't really bothered about pet ones. Have tried to call the pig movement line to clarify the 'probably doesn't need one' but no answer....

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Neil Wheadon — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:37:43 GMT

I'd ring up your local office and ask to speak to the duty vet.

There will be a process in place

It'll make a change from a TB enquiry

Neil

RE: Moving a deceased pig

Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:36:25 GMT

Why not phone APHA ?

Wynne