Digestive testing

RE: Digestive testing

Stephanie Wellings — Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:42:41 GMT

[quote user="Kate Richardson"]

Harry Simmons apologies for some of my colleagues comments. They may not agree with you or have any interest in your product, but no excuse for being rude. For all we know you are dyslexic or have some other difficulties with grammar and punctuation.

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Apologies if anyone was genuinely offended. Given the language/spelling in the first post, I thought it unlikely that the author had any 'difficulties' as you describe - and I hope that my comment was taken in the light hearted spirit in which it was intended.

I don't regard this as any more 'rude' than the comments directed at another participant (who posed a genuine question) advising her she may have 'missed some of physiology 101'.

RE: Digestive testing

Kate Richardson — Sun, 17 Jan 2016 21:49:45 GMT

RE: Digestive testing

Stephanie Wellings — Sun, 17 Jan 2016 20:28:10 GMT

I too, enjoy, the overuse, of commas.

RE: Digestive testing

Harry Simmons — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:40:24 GMT

Robin

You may have missed some of the information, in physiology 101. As I mentioned, to another person in this forum, after 30-years in clinical research, I have no need to mentor people, about digestive issues in animals.

RE: Digestive testing

Harry Simmons — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:33:37 GMT

Hi Virginia

After spending 30-years in clinical research and 9-years with Heidelberg Medical, I have a substantial amount of experience, related to digestive issues. Quite a bit, of the research, involved dogs, swine, and bovine, and horses. The response I received, from other people in this forum, leads me to believe that the information I accrued over the years would not be of any value, to people in this forum.

RE: Digestive testing

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 18:35:56 GMT

I like testing digestives.

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Martin Atkinson — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 17:59:33 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

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Spam, spam, spam, spam.

(Please visit the site to view this video)

[/quote]How come you got 5 stars and I get a single gold (red in old money) when I smell the whiff of processed pork products? I gave this one the benefit of the doubt as he has posted before and Arlo hasn't blackballed him.

RE: Digestive testing

Andrew Kent — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:02:36 GMT

Hi Harry,

I'm sure we had a brief discussion about this that last time you posted - but this is an area where human conditions cannot be directly extrapolated to dogs.

Hypochlorhydria/achlorhydria is, I believe, quite common in people as they get older, often as part of atrophic gastritis. This is often associated with helicobacter (which is not the case in dogs as far as we currently know) and actually of major importance because it leads to hypocobalaminaemia and anaemia (which also isn't the case in dogs/cats who produce intrinsic factor, which is critical in cobalamin absorption, elsewhere).

In dogs it is very uncommon, at least as far as we currently know, I have once diagnosed it in a dog but I don't believe that people are missing a trick by not looking for it. When it does occur in dogs it is probably due to infiltrative gastric disease meaning that aspect may be the least of the dogs problems!

I do think these capsules are useful from a research point of view, I have done some small investigations into gastric pH (not using capsules) but certainly they are a good way to investigate pH from that point of view. As I pointed out last time the major use in these capsules will therefore be the research field - I did email you after the last advert you posted with an offer to discuss this further but didn't get a reply

Andy

RE: Digestive testing

Robin Grimmer — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 08:54:49 GMT

[quote user="Harry Simmons"]

Hypochlorhydria is one of the condition that causes incomplete sterilization and conversion of the nutrients consumed. Clinical research shows that as a Canine ages, the parietal cells in the gut wane in their ability to produce sufficiently strong hydrochloric acid. When this occurs nutrients are not broken down, sterilized, or converted, which leads to malabsorption, and onset of bacterial and pathogens. Incomplete sterilization and conversion also results in excessive weight gain in canines. A pH diagnostic test, or pH capsule test is the most accurate and reliable way to diagnose digestive disorders in canines

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Very badly written, bad grammar - typical pseudo science.

And I agree with Michael, posts like this have no place on this forum.

RE: Digestive testing

Hannah Wynne Richards — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 08:51:16 GMT

The view of one of the many medicine specialists on this forum would be useful.

As far as this humble GP is concerned, this seems like a gross oversimplification of the complexities of canine digestive pathology

Wynne

RE: Digestive testing

Michael Woodhouse — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 00:40:24 GMT

Arlo Guthrie - How do you report a post? Nothing happened when I tried?

RE: Digestive testing

Michael Woodhouse — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 00:39:02 GMT

http://www.phcapsule.com/

Spam, spam, spam, spam.

https://youtu.be/anwy2MPT5RE

RE: Digestive testing

Virginia Campbell — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 00:11:24 GMT

So whatcha selling then? This, [quote user="Harry Simmons"] A pH diagnostic test, or pH capsule test[/quote] presumably. How is it done and how much does it cost?

What's the fix if an old dog turns out to be suffering from [quote user="Harry Simmons"]Hypochlorhydria[/quote]? Dose them up with exogenous hydrochloric acid? Hmmm....

RE: Digestive testing

Robin Grimmer — Fri, 08 Jan 2016 18:46:53 GMT

If nutrients are not broken down and you have malabsorption then you would have weight loss, not weight gain surely.

RE: Digestive testing

Harry Simmons — Fri, 08 Jan 2016 18:11:53 GMT

Everything I mentioned is backed by multiple clinical studies, done over the last 25 years. You will find several of them in the Textbook of Veterinary Anatomy (by Sanders), Veterinary Micro-biology (Wilery and Blackwell), Merck Veterinary Manual.

RE: Digestive testing

Will McMullan — Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:54:31 GMT

I think science might disagree with you there old chap.