tear staining

RE: tear staining

Sarah Mark — Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:27:30 GMT

I just had a quick look on VIN and found pages of old threads discussing using oxytet for sialoceles and also tear staining, but couldn't find any trials or journal articles in my 10min browse. The dose is 10mg/kg tid for 3 weeks for both conditions, during which time the sialocele should be shrivelled up to a hard knob, and the tear stained faces should be vastly improved. Repeat courses for tear staining are mentioned. Personally, mine have cleared up after 3 weeks and not come back but the owners were also keeping the faces cleaner.

RE: tear staining

Charlotte Marshall — Sat, 27 Feb 2016 10:14:56 GMT

I had never heard of using oxy/doxy for epiphora. How long a course do you give and how long does the effect last?

RE: tear staining

Sarah Mark — Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:10:38 GMT

I'll have a look later on - I def. 1st heard about in on VIN a while ago. Not tried it in a mucocoele myself but several epiphora dogs now have clean faces!

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Aine Seavers — Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:09:20 GMT

Fascinating, do you have the original reference as I would love to see if there is any data or cross information that would suggest any efficacy in breaking down a mucocoele- when I have open one of these up post mortem-they are string sheets of mucous so wonder would the oxy work her?

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emerald — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 21:10:12 GMT

There are wipes by Vetruus I think. Not sure for good they are.

RE: tear staining

Ida Louise Gilbert — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 21:53:05 GMT

Aim to fix the underlying problem if at all possible. Ie look for causes of increased tear stimulation such as distichia, ectopics, ulceration, lagophthalmos, qualitative tear film deficiency etc and then additionally look for causes of reduced drainage. If micropuncta or imperforate, dilating and enlarging the puncta can work wonders as long as the nasolacrimal duct is patent. Most cases are multifactorial and you often need to correct multiple factors to achieve improvement.

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patrick murphy — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 16:35:17 GMT

my optoid just said surgical playing with the punctae was the only way, when I was looking to rediscover doxy!no other ophthalmologist's out there?

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Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:26:59 GMT

Cutting hair short around eyes and Vaseline under the eyes!

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Martin Atkinson — Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:07:42 GMT

[quote user="Tom Ward"]Saw a Lintbells rep a few years ago who was pushing Silver Water for cleaning tear/saliva staining. [/quote]Silver certainly has antibacterial properties when it is used in sports clothing worn for heavy exercise to prevent erm....body odour. But I've not heard about the oxytet effect before. It was often recommended for acne in teenagers not so much for the antibiotic effect but its immunomodulatory effect. Not sure it is a responsible use of antibiotics though.

RE: tear staining

Tom Ward — Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:23:45 GMT

Saw a Lintbells rep a few years ago who was pushing Silver Water for cleaning tear/saliva staining. http://www.lintbells.com/products/silvercare-range/silvercare-silver-water Not used it directly myself, so not sure if it works!

RE: tear staining

Sarah Mark — Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:38:32 GMT

Not new I don't think, but I recently read something on VIN about using oxytet, due to its ability to break down hydrostatic bonds, it allows tears to flow down the lacrimal duct and reduces tear stains. I found this as a tangent after looking up using oxytet to 'seal' sialoceles. I found this fascinating. Apparently a chronic sialocele will persist due to saliva keeping a tiny hole open with a 'rope' of saliva, and the oxytet causes the 'rope' to break down. Rather than surgery, they were suggesting treat for about 3 weeks with oxytet and watch the sialocele disappear.

Sorry if this is old news, it was the first time I'd heard about it! I sort of knew about oxytet and white poodle faces but I assumed it was the antibiotic effect and had never used it myself. Since reading about if I've tried in a couple of dogs and its has worked well, at least in the short term.