Basset hound with weight loss.

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Anthony Todd — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:12:33 GMT

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]What was the nature of the effusion? [/quote]

Yes, me too, seems a pity to do an invasive test and not glean anything from it.

SG, cytology gives a load of info.

It may even give you a positive diagnosis.....

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grumpyoldman — Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:13:48 GMT

[quote user="Silvia Maldonado"]So far, I've not seen any case of a dog with pericardial effusion that survived for long.[/quote]

Generally I would agree but we recently had a PE that presented as a liver /GIT problem ,it was also ascitic( we were considering some weird PNS) . After draining and treatment that dog resolved and has been fine for 3 years ,so sometimes its just idiopathic, or part of a generalised vasculitis which could explain the GIT problems and swollen mediastinum. That got better with pred and vivitonin after some research on VIN. Hope that helps .

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Silvia Maldonado — Sun, 10 Jan 2016 00:59:30 GMT

Hi, Bill. Sorry, that's one of the cons of being an OOH vet, that most cases are not followed when they go back to their own vets after the weekend. So far, I've not seen any case of a dog with pericardial effusion that survived for long. As someone pointed out, a cardiac tumour would be on top of the differentials, but I cannot tell you for sure if he went to heaven.

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Bill Nolan — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 17:26:16 GMT

Hi Silvia,

I was wondering if you had any further information/outcome of this case?

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Silvia Maldonado — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:45:19 GMT

Many thanks for all your opinion. So far, no more news :(

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:03:17 GMT

I'd suspect 2 problems. A pericardial effusion means a heart base tumour has to be high on the differential list, and it's possible that there's something else, eg bacterial overgrowth (response to antibiotics) maybe associated with maybe food allergy/pancreatic insufficiency as well. More questions than answers I'm afraid.

Wynne

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Robin Grimmer — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:28:09 GMT

[quote user="robloxley"]

[quote user="Silvia Maldonado"]radiographs were performed before removing pericardial fluids with ultrasound help[/quote]

Missed this in your original history

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Yes! This changes things somewhat. Was there a significant pericardial effusion and was this clearly seen on ultrasound? What was the nature of the effusion? Haemorrhagic, clear? It is somewhat confusing as no other signs relating to tamponade, ie no right sided heart failure, ascites etc.

The clinical signs seem to be primarily gasto intestinal. If you hadn't added that bit about the pericardial effusion then I would have been going for a ex lap. I agree the stomach does look abnormal. This dog also has a strange looking rib cage which doesn't help!

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Rob Loxley — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:36:18 GMT

[quote user="Silvia Maldonado"]radiographs were performed before removing pericardial fluids with ultrasound help[/quote]

Missed this in your original history

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Silvia Maldonado — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:26:05 GMT

The radiographs were performed before removing pericardial fluids with ultrasound help. Would you say that the pericardial effusion can explain the lungs abnormal position? or is it too displaced? He was sent home with frusemide. Should we add some broad spectrum ab as well?

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Silvia Maldonado — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:19:25 GMT

It does, and looked scary when I saw it as well, agree with you. However he's not showing any symptoms of a linear FB or any GIT disorder. Quite hungry indeed, no v/d.

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Kirsten Simpson — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:15:48 GMT

To me the mediastinum looks a little enlarged, and is more obvious as well on the lateral than usual (hard to say, might just be overly of shoulders) plus the lungs look pushed up and back. I'd be thinking a mediastinal mass = thymoma/lymphoma..

RE: Basset hound with weight loss.

Rob Loxley — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:47:14 GMT

Does the stomach look odd?