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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/22538/weird-case</link><description> 
 
 Hi, 
 I would appreciate your thoughts on the following case: 
 2 year old chi hua hua cross. 
 Had a typical clonic tonic fit according to owner&amp;#39;s description couple of weeks ago. They brought him straight away. He was a little ataxic (normal</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135909?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2015 09:57:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:fc61a420-9826-4ee6-8032-c63fb2b0fe7a</guid><dc:creator>Rob Loxley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Martin Atkinson&amp;quot;] I would want to rule out a liver shunt although one would have expected symptoms earlier[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;indeed but many, particularly&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;porto-azygous shunts, are not diagnosed til later than 1-2yrs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135892?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 21:53:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:12457251-53be-4634-bbc5-7568e5ef12df</guid><dc:creator>Lindsey Edwards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;+1 bile acid stim followed by therapeutic trial for seizure activity if neg&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135591?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 14:02:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:6e2e6666-8bc2-40c7-985b-27366830673c</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Most likely idiopathic epilepsy but with an association with feeding and the raised ALP I would want to rule out a liver shunt although one would have expected symptoms earlier. So agree with BAST or even just resting BA, I assume glucose is normal as you&amp;#39;ve not mentioned it and can&amp;#39;t see it will be pancreatitis unless he has abdominal pain. CT/MRI if owners can afford it to look for nasty things Chihuahuas can have going on in their silly skulls but epilepsy is a diagnosis of elimination and you may end up just with a therapeutic trial.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135584?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 13:34:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0109de55-7164-41c9-8278-848b1348eba2</guid><dc:creator>ilanit</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;No not yet, but I am planning to do both.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135548?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 09:13:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0472c59b-73b4-49db-bf7a-41b82ac0d055</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not sure. The jaw movements are almost like a yawn, and dogs can do that with mesenteric or visceral pain if I remember correctly. Have a spec CPL been done? I&amp;#39;d agree with the BAST too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135531?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2015 21:59:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2b297be1-8cf7-4575-97fa-d34eb9522f03</guid><dc:creator>Nicola Lawlor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like seizure episodes, but may be worth a bile acid stim test to rule out portosystemic shunt too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135530?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2015 21:34:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:4b571ded-71d6-4f59-a9d4-e01bb400eabd</guid><dc:creator>Vita Ra</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;i would also say partitial (focal) seizures&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135529?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2015 20:24:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e9ec875b-91eb-46b8-9a75-ff31d0cf1063</guid><dc:creator>ruths</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;i can see the video-))&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In people, focal seizures can be odd vocalisations... so that&amp;#39;s possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it could be pain- though he&amp;#39;s not looknig at his flanks, or scratching at a sore bit etc so it&amp;#39;s hard to know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135527?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2015 20:19:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:baf4d6ea-9b7c-445b-8a2d-cf3179ca672d</guid><dc:creator>ruths</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi- I can&amp;#39;t see the video, but the episdoes you describe could well be focal seizures..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;d ceratinly check fasting glucose (if you didn&amp;#39;t already) and possibly just after an episode.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hth&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: weird case</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/135526?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2015 20:17:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c1d7f528-d8bd-4997-9c19-9e90d6f8b86e</guid><dc:creator>Ana Santos</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Syringomyelia?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>