supplements causing prostatic disease?

Re: supplements causing prostatic disease?

Virginia Campbell — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 14:18:45 GMT

2am this morning: splenic mass size of a grapefruit that went pop as I tried to gently exteriorise it out of a fat lab: moved swiftly to plan B- haul it out and get all the clamps on quick smart. Only took a minute or so but I had Wynne's BPH alright!

Re: supplements causing prostatic disease?

patrick murphy — Sat, 21 Feb 2015 11:59:40 GMT

well mine is bigger than yours!!!! prolapsed eye and an RTA owner induced at 6.45.! come on, someone can top that easy.

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Richard Carter — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:18:10 GMT

well it is Friday evening and I have spent it taking stones out of a dog that apparently did this a few days ago but at closing time suddenly was vomiting, pyrexic and in abdominal discomfort so now I also have Wynne's BPH

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:14:45 GMT

Could also be Blood Pressure(through roof) Hyperventilating.

Wynne

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Richard Carter — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:27:46 GMT

benign prostatic hyperplasia

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:59:54 GMT

Thanks

Wynne

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Gillian Mostyn — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:59:16 GMT

Benign prostatic hyperplasia

Re: supplements causing prostatic disease?

Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:57:02 GMT

What is BPH?

Wynne

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Richard Carter — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:45:23 GMT

found small article relating to supplements in humans and is evidence that green lipped muscle, omega 3 and chondroitin causing excessive zinc levels which in turn can cause BPH amongst other issues with liver, GIT so guess will be testing Zn levels next but then most humans are not castrated.

I was thinking more of fish oils containing active hormone but not found anything yet.

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Andrew Mellor — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 10:11:44 GMT

the other question would be when were they castrated ? was lead to believe a little like mammary tumours and bitch spay the older they are when neutered the higher the risk. having said that my horrible patterdale killing machine was castrated at 12 weeks although he humped everything from 7 weeks and he got prostatic enlargement at 5 , still humps any female he can.

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Richard Carter — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:48:50 GMT

the first was prostatic abscess which didn't respond to anything.

Haven't been brave enough to try fna second as the thickened part feels connective tissue rather than glandular and is symmetrical and so would probably need ex lap and biopsy

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Andrew Kent — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:41:35 GMT

Hi Richard,

Have you biopsied these prostates? For me prostatic enlargement in a castrated dog is neoplastic until proven otherwise.

Andy

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:00:42 GMT

Evelyn. You've lasted well if you were a lad in Edwardian times. By my reckoning, if you can remember young ladies being hourglass shaped, you must be a First World War veteran!

Wynne

PS Those corsets must have:

a) been uncomfortable

and

b) contributed to the dreadful decline in whale populations

(See, I don't think everything was better years ago - just a lot of things)

Re: supplements causing prostatic disease?

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 23:36:18 GMT

[quote user="Andrew Mellor"] Women were supposed to be a triangle[/quote]

When I were a lad women were supposed to be an hourglass.

Oh, I've been wanting to use this for ages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RylzPrS3WpE

Re: supplements causing prostatic disease?

Andrew Mellor — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:31:47 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

Bloody hell Andrew you are asking for trouble, bit of an over-generalisation I'd say base on personal observation.

[/quote]

actually paraphrasing something I read somewhere a few years ago - probably the mail in mother in laws house - so it must be true!!

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Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:28:56 GMT

I think the only thing we can say about these supplements with any confidence is they do no harm! No proof of any benefit.

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:20:52 GMT

Bloody hell Andrew you are asking for trouble, bit of an over-generalisation I'd say base on personal observation.

I take EFAs, glucosamine & chondroitin for my OA or more to ward it off and my prostate is OK as far as I'm aware.

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Andrew Mellor — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:03:47 GMT

What an interesting idea. my wife takes efa's for pmt and breast pain and it works really well, generally they are in the form of fish oils - can anyone with knowledge of human hormone changes advise is it oestrogen, progesterone or testosterone that will help her ( she probably knows but is away at present) and whether that would have an effect on the prostate. Oils often contain cholesterol ( precursor to many hormones) - one of the thoughts why women are becoming generally less curvy and more square. Women were supposed to be a triangle narrow shoulders and wide hips and men wide shoulders and narrow hips- we are as a society avoiding cholesterol and so are more androgenous in shape .

Am I treading on thin ice here?