Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

Thomas Johnson — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:40:56 GMT

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[quote user="mariette asselbergs"]VPIS said a dog needed to eat 100g/kg (!) for it to be toxic,[/quote]

It doesn't sound particularly bad for the rats either......

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I think the idea is that the rats eat it daily and eventually accumulate a toxic dose.

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:33:04 GMT

[quote user="mariette asselbergs"]VPIS said a dog needed to eat 100g/kg (!) for it to be toxic,[/quote]

It doesn't sound particularly bad for the rats either......

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

CatherineThomas — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 07:46:48 GMT

That's an interesting point about the caecotrophs. But it would make vitamin K even more important as their normal source of vitamin k is from the caecotrophs. So you wouldn't want to stop it for too long. I think low fibre material has an average transit time of around 20hrs, so hopefully you would only need to stop caecotrophy for one day.

The exotic formulary gives a dose of 1-10mg/kg IM as needed for vitamin K.

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

mariette asselbergs — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:23:13 GMT

We did call VPIS. The owner knew the name of the poison (Pestshield advanced formula). VPIS said a dog needed to eat 100g/kg (!) for it to be toxic, then the effect would start 3 days after ingestion. They said they had no info about bunnies but advised to keep a good eye on it, and maybe prevent it from eating caecotrophs to prevent recycling of the poison.

Looks like it should probably be fine....

Mariette

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

Robin Grimmer — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:42:21 GMT

Are you a member of VPIS? Might be worth giving them a call, as the rabbit's digestion and physiology are unique, advice might be different in this species.

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:13:58 GMT

Don't we need to know what the poison is? May not even be an anticoagulant. On the other hand if its a 2nd or 3rd generation anticoagulant it may need Vit K for longer than a fortnight.

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

Richard Carter — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 09:38:47 GMT

Vitamin K deficiency only occurs when the liver runs out of reserves - a few days later so there isn't a rush

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

Hannah Wynne Richards — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 09:25:52 GMT

Too late now, but I would have given it Vit K last night. Also, with a bunny I think you'll have to inject not feed it VitK

Wynne

Re: Rabbit ate ratpoison. Help!

Joyce Whitehead — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:33:15 GMT

No true idea, but that would be my plan. Many years ago we had a pet duck that ate rat poison, had a small joint bleed but responded well to daily vit K injections. Can't remember more details, just that it survived!