https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/21176/comfortan-as-epidural Anyone used it (or know if you can?)? en-USTelligent Community 10https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/128056?ContentTypeID=1Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:04:35 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:1baf5f70-2c7c-4916-9f1f-39a07302f79cWren<p>[quote user=&quot;Michael Woodhouse&quot;] <p>And yet farm vets used lignocaine or procaine and adrenaline with preservative all the time with zero problems. Also xylazine from multi dose bottles. I&#39;ve done 100&#39;s of epidurals. </p> <p>I have to wonder whether this is more of a theoretical risk than a real one.</p> <div style="CLEAR:both;"></div> [/quote]</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Ditto, and no clipping or scrubbing, just knock the mud off and stick the needle in.&nbsp;I wouldn&#39;t even dream of doing one like that in a horse though!</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/128038?ContentTypeID=1Mon, 12 Jan 2015 22:46:25 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:690c1a78-849e-4399-8860-8cf73976e7cdAnthony Dennison<p>You forget Michael, that farm animals are much hardier than namby pamby dogs and cats.</p> <p>Can&#39;t remember if I&#39;ve told the anecdote of the australlian vet showing students how to do an inverted L block, annoyed at how much the cow was kicking for the skin and muscle incisions before settling down, then realising after stitching up he&#39;d only used water for injection.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/128033?ContentTypeID=1Mon, 12 Jan 2015 22:03:48 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ab240858-3e77-460f-9e8b-b4f24bce13f8Michael Woodhouse<p>And yet farm vets used lignocaine or procaine and adrenaline with preservative all the time with zero problems. Also xylazine from multi dose bottles. I&#39;ve done 100&#39;s of epidurals. </p> <p>I have to wonder whether this is more of a theoretical risk than a real one.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/128025?ContentTypeID=1Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:28:33 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:4253940b-ff6e-4b6e-82e9-d806cc5b54edJB88<p>You need to use preservative free to prevent irritation. Comfortan is a definite no. We often use bupivicaine rather than opiod epidurals for orthopaedics and then use opiod analgesia in addition such as fentanyl and methadone or buprenorphine. &nbsp;</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/128019?ContentTypeID=1Mon, 12 Jan 2015 19:40:44 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:81327e22-36f7-405c-820c-59c747453681Anthony Dennison<p>[quote user=&quot;John Flynn&quot;]</p> <p>i think that one might have preservatives in it? I&#39;ve always used preservative free for epidurals though don&#39;t know how important that is?</p> <div style="clear:both;"></div> <p>[/quote]</p> <p>+1. Don&#39;t think you can use anything in a multidose bottle without causing some irritation</p> <p>&nbsp;</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127997?ContentTypeID=1Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:55:01 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d3125c94-8c21-4cd4-ae50-9aaedd2dc505John Flynn<p>i think that one might have preservatives in it? I&#39;ve always used preservative free for epidurals though don&#39;t know how important that is?</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>