Terrapin with puffy eyes

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Rob Davis — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:06:16 GMT

Thanks for your input, Marie. I will post again once I have received the referral report

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Marie Kubiak — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:18:12 GMT

Looks like a common map turtle - would definitely be concerned about hypovitaminosis A on that terrible diet! These guys do have a more irregular shell with the dorsal and peripheral ridges but I agree shell quality looks less than ideal with the raised areas within the scutes and the ?cracks on the left side in the bottom photo. The hyperaemia of the plastron suggests a widespread inflammatory process and possible sepsis. As Gillian says it needs a full work up as it likely has multiple problems associated with the secondary effects of poor husbandry.

Referring on sounds a wise plan,

Marie

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Rob Davis — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:48:43 GMT

Thanks for the replies, I have referred it this morning.

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Gillian Mostyn — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:00:55 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Dennison"]

[quote user="Gillian Mostyn"]That shell looks awful.[/quote]

I thought that too. Yesssss, my exotics knowledge is growing.

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It isn't just the excess of algae- which tells you the water quality is bad and it is doing too little basking - but it also appears grooved and 'knobbly'. Looks like a very sick turtle to me.

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Martin Atkinson — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:55:29 GMT

[quote user="Julian Earl"]

Don't you mean HYPOvitaminosis, not hyper?

[/quote]Who me? Yes typo, will correct.

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Julian Earl — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:41:51 GMT

Don't you mean HYPOvitaminosis, not hyper?

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Anthony Dennison — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:29:08 GMT

[quote user="Gillian Mostyn"]That shell looks awful.[/quote]

I thought that too. Yesssss, my exotics knowledge is growing.

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 19:22:11 GMT

False map turtle???

That shell looks awful.

Probably a multitude of problems, but likely due to awful husbandry. If it is a map ( hard to be 100% from photos) they need really good water quality with good oxygenation and ideally fast flow!!! You don't mention a basking area..??

Have a look at some photos and husbandry requirements on Dr Google and feel free to post any specific questions.

If the owner wants to do what's best, then this turtle needs bloods and xrays to give you some info about its health... Otherwise it is simply guesswork.

Re: Terrapin with puffy eyes

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 18:50:47 GMT

It is almost certainly hypovitamosis A but consider an Iodine deficiency as well with what looks a bit like myxoedema at the forelimb junctions.

5000iu Vit A I/M q 7days and 4-8 drops of potassium iodide solution daily on food. Supplement diet with minced liver. Avoid kale, and spinach in the diet as they can be goitrogenic.

I'm happy to be corrected by Marie.