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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Avulsion of origin CCL in a 12 week old puppy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/20538/avulsion-of-origin-ccl-in-a-12-week-old-puppy</link><description> History of playing boisterously with another dog and sudden onset lameness. Clear swelling within the stifle, a floating triangular fragment of bone in the stifle and a pronounced cranial draw. 
 Not insured (typical!) - is this a surgical case, or</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Avulsion of origin CCL in a 12 week old puppy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/123770?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 15:04:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:95b738a1-45eb-4bbe-8cc9-b936ae4bace3</guid><dc:creator>Malcolm Ness</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I would leave this alone, at least in the first instance. NSAIDs and normal activity - there is nothing to be gained from resting this dog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The injury is almost certainly an avulsion of the insertion rather than the origin of the CCL - i.e. the tibial attachment. There is nothing to be gained from removing the fragment or debriding the ligament. It is tempting to consider re-attaching the fragment but it is too small to allow a mechanically competent repair.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even without a stable joint, the dog may go on to do surprisingly well. However, lameness may persist and if that is the case, I would delay surgery for as long as practical (to get the dog as close to skeletal maturity as possible) before doing a mechanical modification procedure - tibial tuberosity advancement or tibial plateau levelling osteotomy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Avulsion of origin CCL in a 12 week old puppy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/123745?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2014 16:40:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:47919c3e-077d-43ab-b921-c38c24c1179c</guid><dc:creator>Malcolm Ness</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;John Taylor&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not insured (typical!) - is this a surgical case, or is rest + nsaids indicated?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks all!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;What kind of dog s it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Avulsion of origin CCL in a 12 week old puppy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/123697?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:18:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ae0a9ca1-f3c3-4ad5-830b-16c911fdd070</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m sure an othopod will be along soon but I would go in and remove the fragment and as much of the ACL stump as possible, hopefully no meniscal damage also in such a young dog, &amp;nbsp;then do a lateral stabilisation suture.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Avulsion of origin CCL in a 12 week old puppy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/123685?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:53:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3c1f1845-95c4-4047-b2ba-c61b87f2c849</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Ah ok sorry, stupidly thought it was a bone fragment on palpation!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Avulsion of origin CCL in a 12 week old puppy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/123684?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:35:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:82af25aa-830f-4a53-8c1f-2f153964cb85</guid><dc:creator>John Taylor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think so (the right doesn&amp;#39;t have this fragment!):&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/161/3731.STIFLE_2D00_Stifle-Lateral_2D00_31_5F00_10_5F00_2014_2D00_12_5F00_28_5F00_39_2D00_546.JPEG"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/161/3731.STIFLE_2D00_Stifle-Lateral_2D00_31_5F00_10_5F00_2014_2D00_12_5F00_28_5F00_39_2D00_546.JPEG" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Avulsion of origin CCL in a 12 week old puppy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/123680?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:10:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:11171dce-a9f8-45fd-adea-7172cd6fb5c0</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Is it definitely that or could it be a fracture of the tibial crest growth plate?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>