Cat with dirty coat

Re: Cat with dirty coat

emma o'connor — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:29:12 GMT

How often had the client been shampooing the cat? I find at least every 2-3 days is needed when the yeast numbers are high. Have you done any follow up cytology to check yeast levels and if they are reducing? Also double check no underlying systemic issues which may hinder the response. Otherwise I have found oral antifungals to be helpful in these stubborn cases. I use Itrafungol oral solution for cats (Itraconazole). It is only indicated for use for microsporum canis so off licence consent is needed. Hope this helps.

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Ruta — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 12:29:33 GMT

Dear colleagues,

Today I receive information from the client, that it's not getting better after Malaseb shampoo. Actually it is going worse. The cat started to loose hairs everywhere. I said to stop grooming, but situation is the same.

I thought maybe somebody has contacts of Sue Paterson. I was in her lecture, and she was amazing. I hope she might help me.

However I am loosing ideas what to do.

Thanks for any advice.

Ruta

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Cat Henstridge — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:31:02 GMT

[quote user="robloxley"]

[quote user="mariette asselbergs"] the owners manage to wash the cats without being clawed to death? I would certainly need to sedate my cats for a bath! [/quote]

This is one of my client's cats having its weekly bathtime

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I love the fact he's got his rubber ducky in with him!

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Rob Loxley — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:24:53 GMT

[quote user="mariette asselbergs"] the owners manage to wash the cats without being clawed to death? I would certainly need to sedate my cats for a bath! [/quote]

This is one of my client's cats having its weekly bathtime

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Lindsey Edwards — Fri, 24 Oct 2014 20:51:33 GMT

Majority of cats tolerate washing as long as there is no 'splash' - fill 3 deep bowls, warm water to wet, malaseb solution and then rinse water and soak gently for required times; sponge firmly and decisively to get entire cat. Only requirement is to not allow cat to get out of water at any stage or they won't go back in if there's the option of escape!

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Ruta — Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:02:51 GMT

Today I receive answer from lab - the reason of dirty coat is Malasezia. So now I am thinking to prescribe Malaseb shampoo and we will see how it goes.

Thank you for an excellent ideas!

Ruta

Re: Cat with dirty coat

mariette asselbergs — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 23:39:09 GMT

"Sammy82"

How do you/ the owners manage to wash the cats without being clawed to death? I would certainly need to sedate my cats for a bath!

In the bad old days we had to wash the cats to treat them against fleas (with alugan). As long as the water was nice and warm, they didn't seem to mind too much amazingly enough.

Mariette

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Martin Atkinson — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:21:04 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

If you're only going to wipe it wilh Malaseb, why not just start with a tub of the Malacetic wipes?

[/quote]Because they don't contain any Miconazole. And even if they did, to be effective, you've got to soak the coat to the skin and leave in contact for 10-15 minutes which equally applies to just wiping with the shampoo.

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 00:34:36 GMT

If you're only going to wipe it wilh Malaseb, why not just start with a tub of the Malacetic wipes?

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Rob Loxley — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:38:59 GMT

[quote user="Stephen Courtney"]You could also try a prolonged course of itraconazole[/quote]

I once considered mycozole spray?

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:56:56 GMT

[quote user="Stephen Courtney"]for some reason i am unable to edit typos after I have posted. and my MacBook is nearly as good as an iPhone in creatively altering my words....it could have been far, far worse![/quote]

I'm sure it could! (Can't you turn the stupid predictive thing off in preferences?)

But no need for regrets, "star twitch the Malaseb" is a great sendipitous discovery. Better spoken than written I think. I'm going to use it on every suitable occasion.

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Stephen Courtney — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:56:01 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]

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for some reason i am unable to edit typos after I have posted. and my MacBook is nearly as good as an iPhone in creatively altering my words....it could have been far, far worse!

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Stephen Courtney — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:54:23 GMT

[quote user="Sammy82"]

How do you/ the owners manage to wash the cats without being clawed to death? I would certainly need to sedate my cats for a bath!

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It obviously depends on the cat. but one way is to put a little bit of diluted shampoo on a facecloth/ similar and wipe it on then off. for cleaning between toes those little cotton wool pads are brilliant, wet a couple , squeeze them out, apply a few drops of malaseb to the pad and foam it up to make a little wipe.

You could also try a prolonged course of itraconazole.

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Sammy82 — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:04:04 GMT

[quote user="Stephen Courtney"]

The Rex breed cats do seem to be very good at growing Malassezia yeasts, and often have sticky brownish crusts/ scale especially in intertriginous areas. I usually recommend Malaseb shampoo .There may also be secondary bacterial infection, which can alter the picture clinically as well.

Thick nails are common in older cats that don't shell the outer claw layers off so easily, or have nowhere to scratch at. Or possibly the nail beds are infected.

I doubt biopsies will help much, but bacterial and fungal culture could be useful. personally I'd just star twitch the malaseb!

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How do you/ the owners manage to wash the cats without being clawed to death? I would certainly need to sedate my cats for a bath!

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Rob Loxley — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:51:25 GMT

I'd initially guess malassezia overgrowth as well

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:34:42 GMT

[quote user="Stephen Courtney"] just star twitch the malaseb[/quote]

Have you just coined a lovely new phrase?

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Kate Richardson — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:17:45 GMT

If negative for malassezia/bacteria and fungi consider skin biopsies. Is the cat overgroomng as it could be saliva staining such as you see with Westies. In other words the cat could be itchy, so you could consider a trial on prednisolone, but if funds stretch to biopsy I would do this first. Also if overgrooming, look at stress levels. Does the owner bath the cat at all? And depending on the level of the azotaemia, don't assume renal disease until you have checked the urine SG.

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Stephen Courtney — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:17:19 GMT

Thick nails are common in older cats that don't shell the outer claw layers off so easily, or have nowhere to scratch at. Or possibly the nail beds are infected.

I doubt biopsies will help much, but bacterial and fungal culture could be useful. personally I'd just star twitch the malaseb!

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:12:05 GMT

[quote user="emma o'connor"]Have you checked for malassezia. [/quote]I assumed she had as she stated a 'dermatology trial' had been performed. Not sure how this would affect the nails though.

Re: Cat with dirty coat

emma o'connor — Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:38:16 GMT

Have you checked for malassezia. The breed is predisposed to a seborrhoea caused by this. Would fit with this presentation.

Re: Cat with dirty coat

Martin Atkinson — Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:25:17 GMT

CKD never caused skin problems IME. So it has to be skin and nail biopsies next. However, although it is a bit old to start I'd wonder how much is genetic given the breed?