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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Small cell, low grade lymphoma</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/19540/small-cell-low-grade-lymphoma</link><description> Everything here has cancer this week! None are straightforward or insured! 
 
 Microscopic Description:Popliteal lymph node (2 sections). The lymph node parenchyma throughout thesections is disrupted by densely packed sheets and nodular aggregates</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Small cell, low grade lymphoma</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/117285?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 09:02:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:fe34419c-370f-4493-b643-edd60e4531bc</guid><dc:creator>Gerry Polton</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Bob&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is curious. I would not expect such rapid progression in a case with a low grade spindle cell sarcoma. This forces us to consider whether the histological diagnosis really reflects the nature of the underlying problem. Remember that histological grade is an expression of what&amp;nbsp;a tumour looks like which we then presume to be a satisfactory proxy marker of what the future holds. Often this is correct. Sometimes it is not.&amp;nbsp;Having said that, it is often better to base our estimates of prognosis on something shaky than on nothing at all. If the story in this case was of a dog who had undergone a similar incomplete excision two years ago and now the mass was back, I would not hesitate in recommending revision (cytoreductive)&amp;nbsp;surgery and simply waiting patiently for it to come back yet again. Like you, I do think that strategy still&amp;nbsp;has something to offer this patient. However, I also wonder whether we should be considering amputation right now. I have an uncomfortable feeling about this case. I don&amp;#39;t believe that metastasis is even remotely likely. However, I do believe that a further cytoreductive procedure at this stage might result in a further similar discussion about addressing the local recurrence of this tumour in a distressingly short period of time. I would at least have a conversation with the owner in which that possibility is presented. If they would prefer to keep the dog&amp;#39;s leg for now despite that, then so be it. Hopefully a further surgery will achieve a more durable remission this time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good luck&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gerry&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Small cell, low grade lymphoma</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/117249?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 15:33:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2d6d27d9-8167-4985-9249-344f9cc74f1c</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;Microscopic Description:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;Mass from foreleg (6
sections).  Expanding the dermis and the subcutis, and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;extending to the tissue
edges is a densely cellular, poorly demarcated and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;non encapsulated
neoplastic mass.  The neoplastic cells are arranged in short&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;interlacing streams and
bundles, that often form whorls around capillaries&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;and collagen. In some
areas the neoplastic cells are closely packed and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;separated by a small
amount of collagenous matrix and in other areas the cells are&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;more widely separated and
surrounded by a pale, loose, amphophilic matrix.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;Individually, the
neoplastic cells are spindled, have variably distinct cell&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;borders, scant
eosinophilic fibrillar cytoplasm, and round to elongate&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;nuclei with finely
stippled chromatin and 1 to 2 variably distinct nucleoli.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;Anisocytosis and
anisokaryosis are mild to moderate, and some multinucleated&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;giant cells are noted.
Mitoses are 4 in 10 high power fields. Occasionally&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;there are variably sized
clefts partially separating neoplastic cells.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;Multifocally there are
clusters of small lymphocytes and lesser plasma&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;cells.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;Histological Diagnosis:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;Soft tissue sarcoma, low
grade, mass from fore leg.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;Comment:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;This mass from the leg is
a neoplastic proliferation of mesenchymal origin,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;most representative of a
low grade soft tissue sarcoma.  Given the cellular&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;characteristics and
arrangements, a peripheral nerve sheath tumour would be&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;the most likely diagnosis.
 The main differential would be a perivascular wall&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;tumour.  In any case, and
given the histological grade, this tumour is&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;expected to be locally
aggressive and infiltrative, but would not be expected to&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;metastasise.  As the
neoplastic cells extend to the tissue edges, local&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;recurrence is likely.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;A 15mm diameter swelling is now evident at the distal end of the scar. If it were my dog I would probably repeat surgery and path and amputate later on the grounds that the dog is probably better keeping four legs as long as possible to reduce wear and tear problems with the unaffected leg. This is probably not an option as the total insurance per condition is only &amp;pound;1500!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;Size of mass prior to surgery 4cm diameter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;Many thanks for the advice !!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Small cell, low grade lymphoma</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/117245?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:56:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:6ab23b14-e54d-4ff2-ac65-063cf2727180</guid><dc:creator>Gerry Polton</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi again, Bob,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the basis of the fast rate of relapse I assume this is a high-grade or intermediate-grade soft tissue sarcoma. Options for management include amputation, as you have mentioned, as well as revision surgery, revision surgery plus radiotherapy, metronomic chemotherapy or possibly radiotherapy alone though I would be anxious about that last one as an option as it feels a bit high-risk, low return.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If&amp;nbsp;you have any more information that might help. Information of interest includes the wording of the histology report,&amp;nbsp;size of the mass and time between surgery and relapse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gerry&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Small cell, low grade lymphoma</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/117239?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:44:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:cd2d97d6-5e63-4676-a7c7-6f02fd7edcb7</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Nope - lurcher!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Small cell, low grade lymphoma</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/117237?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:37:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:97ac89ad-e505-4a9e-806a-90e5c5c3b753</guid><dc:creator>Rob Loxley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Is it a cat? if so could oncept be used?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Small cell, low grade lymphoma</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/117235?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:05:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:f8232d13-3ebd-4694-8a5c-5b2664b414e7</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Brilliant - many thanks! Just wanted to check!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next one! - soft tissue sarcoma on foreleg below elbow. Was originally removed for biopsy as FNA only yielded fluid. Thought was a cyst but clearly not!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Was invasive into deep structures and has returned rapidly. Alternatives to amputation?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Small cell, low grade lymphoma</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/117234?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:52:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:df1c6a99-9d58-426d-aa78-e081f266bd3d</guid><dc:creator>Gerry Polton</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Bob&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To answer the question you put at the end, the treatment option of choice is NO TREATMENT. Apologies for the capitals, they were meant for emphasis but not to suggest being shouty. It&amp;#39;s a surprise but treating these cases with steroids alone gave a 25 times (yes 25 times) greater risk of death than no treatment at all!! COP treatment gave a 3.25 times greater risk of death than no treatment and doxorubicin based chemotherapy gave a 2&amp;nbsp;times greater risk of death than no treatment at all. Would you Adam and Eve it???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The received wisdom (for what it is worth) is that these patients are best left untreated until their lymphoma appears to be making them feel poorly. They can live in excess of two years without any treatment at all but with big lymph nodes. Big can mean navel orange size in a Jack Russell. Many owners struggle with the idea of not treating these. Once the cancer appears to be progressing more quickly and causing the dog to feel unwell, we tend to treat with a doxorubicin based protocol if we treat them at all. For many owners they are comfortable simply requesting euthanasia at this time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please consider the possibility that this low grade illness has been present for a long time. Although cases can, and regularly do live for in excess of two years without therapy from the time of diagnosis, this does depend on us making a diagnosis once the disease is first detectable. Quite a few of these cases are diagnosed at an annual vaccination and health check. It is quite conceivable that those patients have had a peripheral lymphadenopathy for ten or eleven months by that stage (or more...?) so the two years or so rule might still apply but might have to be back-dated.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gerry&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>