Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Louise Buckley — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:58:18 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

Referral facility to avoid. Too many clever-clogs doing the complicated stuff, and the basics being neglected.

Wynne

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Indeed. The "nursing" can't have been that "intensive".

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Agreed!

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Suzanne Kelly — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:08:21 GMT

Hi guys, thanks so much for all your replies

Re the clinic - it's spotless and the dogs ( large and hairy x 2) came in with maggots and were hospitalised, they didn't get them here. They were attracting flies though due to their putrid flesh even though they received excellent nursing care, hence the questions. The other pets I was asking about are at home with their owners, also being kept clean but you can't watch them 24/7 and it takes 5 mins for a fly to lay eggs.

I looked into Vectra 3d but it contain permethrins so I would have the same concerns about it in a household with smoochy cats as Advocate.

What's F10 and who makes it?

Re flyscreens and aircon would love both but it's not my clinic unfortunately so although I wanted both, it's not my money to spend.

Anyhow the weather is back to normal ( raining) and the maggoty duo have recovered and gone home and we are now fly free.

I'd still like some F10 info though :)

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:07:53 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

Referral facility to avoid. Too many clever-clogs doing the complicated stuff, and the basics being neglected.

Wynne

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Indeed. The "nursing" can't have been that "intensive".

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Martin Atkinson — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:04:09 GMT

[quote user="Suzanne Kelly"]) Flies in the clinic. We have to have all the doors and windows open as no air con and the flies are everywhere. What's the best way of keeping them out/killing them?[/quote] We have no air-con but air circulation keeps us comfortable except on the rare very hottest days, in fact people still comment how cool it is when its baking outside (but then they moan its too warm in the winter)! This involves open windows and rooflights creating a Venturi effect but rarely is a fly seen. We pride ourselves on a clean smell free clinic - could that be the difference?

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:34:12 GMT

Referral facility to avoid. Too many clever-clogs doing the complicated stuff, and the basics being neglected.

Wynne

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Louise Buckley — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:22:23 GMT

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Did the dog pick up the maggots in the clinic ?

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I would imagine so as it had been hospitalised for over a week by the point at which the maggots started to appear.

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Sammy82 — Tue, 24 Jun 2014 23:02:20 GMT

Did the dog pick up the maggots in the clinic ?

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Louise Buckley — Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:25:29 GMT

[quote user="Stephen Courtney"]

Anecdotally I have heard that capstar (Nitenpyram) kills maggots. i haven't had an opportunity to check this though

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Works fab! Crush up one large dog capstar tablet, mix with 20ml of water and apply to the maggot - infested area. This was for application in a rabbit - I guess you would use a lot more for a dog! As a nurse, I used it several times in rabbit cases years ago in practice. I keep Capstar (well, the Johnsons Flea tablets equivalent as cheaper and the same active ingredient) readily available in case I ever get a fly blown sheep.

I have seen quite a few flyblown, non rabbit cases. Including, unfortunately, a long stay canine inpatient being intensively nursed in a referral facility . Most have been wildlife cases though.

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Anthony Dennison — Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:28:59 GMT

This cat was brought in to me by an RSPCA Inspector the other weekend, original injury from a collar wound that flies have got to. There were so many maggots they were surrounded by bubbles, going into both limb muscles and in towards the thorax. The cat was chipped, and had been missing for over a year.

As you can probably tell by the pentoject bottle in the background it was euthanased on welfare grounds after discussion with the owner. I thought that the extent of the damage and how far the maggots were penetrating it would have been a huge job to sort out and unfortunately the owners couldn't afford treatment. Does anyone think otherwise?

With unlimited fund I would probably have removed all the maggots, cleaned the wound further and re-assessed. I think it would have been hard to close that skin defect without extensive skin grafts, and possibly limb amputation to make it easier?

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

CatherineThomas — Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:50:02 GMT

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I love F10 also, and you can get the F10 spray with insecticide in :)

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I like the F10 with insecticide for rabbits and it could be used on dogs but probably best not use it if there's the possibility of the cats being exposed to it.

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Joyce Whitehead — Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:27:04 GMT

Having never seen a maggoty cat until last week, today in came... another maggoty cat. Another entire male, semi feral (oh good) around 2 years old. Looks like a tail pull injury leading to faecal and urinary retention and overflow. He is still alive but maybe for not much longer. But at least the maggots are gone.

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

John Ellis — Sun, 22 Jun 2014 10:11:07 GMT

I love F10 also, and you can get the F10 spray with insecticide in :)

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Rob Loxley — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 23:05:19 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]Hot day, client walks in the door, "lovely and cool in here!".[/quote]

and you're running late but they (and their dog) are very happy to wait!

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Bob Russell — Wed, 18 Jun 2014 09:27:12 GMT

Portable aircon units are cheap and effective and only require a catflap sized hole in the wall. About £100 plus a minor builders bill. They are noisy so need to be switched off when using a stethoscope!

We had them in the consulting room and operating theatre until we had full aircon installed!

Better still bite the bullet and get full aircon installed. It is nowhere near as expensive as people think even if you go for the high efficiency type we have. Hot day, client walks in the door, "lovely and cool in here!".

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Mark Hedberg — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 22:11:34 GMT

3. Insect mesh screens; good for flies and many other non-sunshiney flying critters. Well worth the expense; no amount of cost savings is worth clients complaining about 'flies in the waiting room' - nothing screams 'disgusting germ ridden pesthole' like flies in a building, no matter how hysterically clean you keep the place.

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Joyce Whitehead — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 22:02:30 GMT

I've anecdotally heard that F10 kills maggots safely on the live animal, and have had cause to use it today. 3 year old male Persian cat (entire) scared out of his garden by an uncontrolled terrier. He lives in the middle of nowhere but with a footpath next to the house, the terrier was on the footpath off a lead. He has been missing for 2 weeks and staggered in last night. Presented this morning, severe maggot infestation on hind quarters, very hypothermic, extreme dehydration. He has had fluids, antibiotics, pain relief and extensive clip and clean. The F10 indeed seemed to kill the maggots on the cat. Amazingly he is eating tonight. I have used rearguard on dogs and cats with no apparent problems, and also on a feathered horse with frog maggots. Hideous things.

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Stephen Courtney — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 21:44:05 GMT

Anecdotally I have heard that capstar (Nitenpyram) kills maggots. i haven't had an opportunity to check this though

I have only ever seen 3 flystruck animals in the Uk that weren't rabbits. they were all moribund / end stage felines usually owned by elderly people with poor eyesight - though one was a toerag with no excuse whatsoever. so i too would be distressed to be in your situation.

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Marie Kubiak — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:58:08 GMT

Frontline spray works nicely if you can avoid any open areas of skin

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

zoe north — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:23:01 GMT

How about Vectra 3D?

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Anthony Dennison — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:55:20 GMT

In India they would give ivermectin to prevent maggot infestation, I have tried it off license in a bunny and it seemed to work...

Re: Flies/maggots/ bleurrgh stuff :(

Gillian Mostyn — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:15:28 GMT

Flies will only lay their eggs on muck...... keep everywhere clean, no maggots!