Odd gingivitis in a dog

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

Charlotte Marshall — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 23:19:16 GMT

OK I confess to not being totally accurate with terminology re the areas involved. Some buccal mucosa was inflamed but also areas above the teeth but not right at the margin. It was in the other day and I tried to take a photo but it is not looking too bad at the moment and it did not come out on the photo. CUPS sounds like an option. I am going away to look it up and see if I can find any photos for comparison!

Although he is a friendly dog he does tend to clamp his mouth shut when trying to examine it. As the mouth has been sore brushing has not really been an option. However the owner is persisting with the chlorhexidine rinse and it does seem to be helping.

Thanks for the comments.

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

grumpyoldman — Mon, 07 Apr 2014 00:37:37 GMT

[quote user="Peter Southerden"]If it is CUPS and the owner can't brush then Im afraid it's extractions[/quote]

I often wondered whether some of these problems were poor salivary output ? Dachshunds and chinese crested present with a lot of KCC and they also seem to have a lot of dental problems post PDT . Possibly a lot of dental problems anyway ?

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

James Laidlaw — Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:15:13 GMT

I never fully understood the difference until this BSAVA - thanks to Soukup, Snyder and R. Perry's lecture today. Another thing I'd like to put in the - lack of teaching of vet dentistry at Universities basket, but I guess I have to shoulder some responsibility for not learning this with extra curricular reading. It would be hard to cover every topic. I expect there's a lot of confusion over terms describing gingiva/mucosa/gingivitis/stomatitis/periodontitis etc etc. Well I hope so, as if not, it was just me...!

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Sun, 06 Apr 2014 20:07:13 GMT

The OP said [quote user="Charlotte Marshall"]has a lot of gingivitis not associated with tooth margins[/quote], not that the buccal mucosa was inflamed. Just saying.

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

Peter Southerden — Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:18:23 GMT

I agree that it sounds like CUPS. Pictures would be helpful. If the inflamed/ulcerated mucosa is tissue overlying teeth then I would probably not rush to take biopsies, if this isn't the case I would. If it is CUPS control is totally dependent on plaque control. Antibiotics are not the answer (plaque is a biofilm) and steroids are contraindicated.

If it is CUPS and the owner can't brush then Im afraid it's extractions.

Pete

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

Suzanne Kelly — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:20:03 GMT

Could it be CUPS ( chronic ulcerative paradental stomatitis)? Dachsunds are one of the breeds that are prone to it. When you lift the lip, are the nasty bits on the inside of the lips on the bits where the lip touches the teeth? Pics would be good.

Suzanne

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

Aisling McGrath — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:21:25 GMT

Was any bloodwork done? Could be uremic mouth ulcers???

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

Rob Davis — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:00:57 GMT

Any chance of some pictures?

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 16:56:54 GMT

And biopsy.

Re: Odd gingivitis in a dog

James Laidlaw — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 16:28:24 GMT

X-rays? As in - did he have any at the time of the dental, and that they may be useful to see what is happening under the gums at present. Obviously doesn't help avoid knocking him out, but if he coped with the GA for the dental he should cope with another for rads.