Does anybody use suprelorin to control oestrus in bitches?

Re: Does anybody use suprelorin to control oestrus in bitches?

Martin Atkinson — Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:09:44 GMT

[quote user="mariette asselbergs"]Firstly I understood that with "unwanted behaviour in uncastrated males" was meant thins like jumping and romping on people, and running away from home in search of bitches in heat, not the aggressive behaviour which most of us know is not a good indication for castration.[/quote]Sorry to hijack this thread but I have always been led to believe, and thus advise, that aggression of dogs towards other entire male dogs (as opposed to any old dog or bitch) was one of the few true behavioural indications for castration along with incessant territorial marking and wandering.

Jumping up, shagging cushions and people's legs, and plain old aggression to all and sundry, humans included, were not conducive to castration alone.

Am I to change a lifetime's advise? Even at 64 I'm prepared to change.

Re: Does anybody use suprelorin to control oestrus in bitches?

mariette asselbergs — Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:30:26 GMT

Thanks Alex,

Firstly I understood that with "unwanted behaviour in uncastrated males" was meant thins like jumping and romping on people, and running away from home in search of bitches in heat, not the aggressive behaviour which most of us know is not a good indication for castration.

But what are the significant side effects of suprelorin inplants in bitches?

I have used delvosteron for many many years in the past and did not have the impression that it increased the risk of pyos much in excess of the normal risk for older bitches. I presently use it in my own dogs every once in a while when the timing of an oestrus is inconvenient. Since I am from Europe I am much less used to the automatic neutering ethos of the UK. A bitch spay is a serious and painful operation in my opinion and I would not like to submit my dog to it unnecessarily. She has a 75% chance never to get a pyo, and if she gets one I feel confident to detect and treat it then. I am glad I don't have to deal with overweight and incontinence, and enerally find their behaviour better than of neutered bitches.

BUT, if suprelorin would be safer than delvosteron I would certainly consider it.

So if you have more info and data then pleases share them

Thanks!

Mariette

Re: Does anybody use suprelorin to control oestrus in bitches?

Alex Allen — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 22:48:10 GMT

Please give us a call - we generally do NOT recommend the use of Suprelorin in bitches as there are several significant risks that need to be considered.

There are protocols that are used in bitches combining progestagens and Suprelorin but each case needs to be discussed.

On the behavioural side please be careful. There is now a warning on the Suprelorin datasheet about castration and aggressive behaviour -

"Surgical or medical castration might have unexpected consequences (i.e. improvement or worsening) on aggressive behaviour. Thus, dogs with sociopathic disorders and showing episodes of intra-specific (dog to dog) and/or inter-specific (dog to another species) aggressions should not be castrated either surgically or with the implant."