<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/16415/lateral-ovariectomy-in-the-bitch</link><description> I am going to Central America where they neuter bitches using this technique 
 
 1. Does anyone know on an online resource describing/illustrating the technique 
 2. If anyone has done the procedure - can they advise on top tips and possible pitfalls</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98071?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:55:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c54ee197-99f7-4908-b8a6-3fd07796f3ce</guid><dc:creator>Mark Hedberg</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Tom Yarrow&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;The Journal of the Rejected Manuscript.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This article is four pages and any if any body wants it email me &amp;lt;tomyarrow@gmail.com&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you know, I&amp;#39;d probably subscribe to a magazine like that just on general principles?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98059?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:39:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:f1fd3e3a-bcdf-40ec-87a1-00b766d2b64a</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Todd</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Tom Yarrow&amp;quot;]This article is four pages and any if any body wants it email me &amp;lt;tomyarrow@gmail.com&amp;gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you give it to me I&amp;#39;ll scan it and put it here, mate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;tt&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98057?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:33:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:cc9e808b-5070-427d-98e3-1bdae935e8f4</guid><dc:creator>Tom Yarrow</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am Tom Yarrow - since Tony Todd told me that you needed some advice - since my reply to Tony I have found an article I wrote on flank spaying of bitches which I wrote many many years ago and never submitted for publication - probably worried that it would have to go in The Journal of the Rejected Manuscript.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This article is four pages and any if any body wants it email me &amp;lt;tomyarrow@gmail.com&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98029?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:49:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:032e19a5-c3fc-425f-a273-0dccf8c2b46d</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Todd</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Iain McAllister&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am going to Central America where they neuter bitches using this technique &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Does anyone know on an online resource describing/illustrating the technique&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. If anyone has done the procedure - can they advise on top tips and possible pitfalls that I may encounter &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tom Yarrow, who some of your may remember and of whom I have the greatest regard as a surgeon was persuaded to write this which may be of interest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Flank Spay&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;There is a French article where they opened the abdomen on both sides.&lt;span style="font-size:12px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;There was one in Modern Veterinary Practice ( now defunct ) where this guy from Fort Worth made a tiny incision in the muscular flank. He made a very small incision in the skin and then punctured the abdomen with a very thin artery forceps and opened them and then placed a larger artery forceps through the same incision withdrew the thin ones and stretched the wound with the bigger forceps - used a hook to get up the left horn remove the ovary from it&amp;#39;s attachment and then dealt with the bifurcation area - having secured this he then pulled up the right horn.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;One suture in the skin and a photo with a dime by the incision site!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Said this method was good advertising.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I first saw flank spaying doing a locum at Stevenage and Letchworth.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;They went through lots of muscle which I thought was daft&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Try to operate on the left flank as the left ovary is very difficult to exteriorise with a Right Flank incision. The right ovary can easily be exteriorised through the left incision.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;So these people need to look at an anatomy book which is what I did (Millers of the Dog). They will see the flank muscles external &amp;amp; internal oblique ventrally decide to become the Rectus Sheath.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The skin incision should be just above the mammary glands then external and internal oblique are transected in the tendon just below the muscle fibres = blood free.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;The transversalis muscle is very thin and it is attached to the rectus sheath more medially so don&amp;#39;t bother looking for this attachment just cut the transversals at right angles = minimal or no bleeding. You can split it in the fibre direction but I never did.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Use a tissue forcep on the muscles in upper part of the incision and lift up all three muscles. Insert Rochester Pean forceps (preferably curved ) upwards and grab some tissue; withdrawing the forcep will exteriorise the left uterine horn.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The fatty tissue you grab will have the left uterine horn under it so it needs flipping over in an upward direction to expose the horn.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Exteriorise the left ovary and detach it - ligate the left mesentery ( meso metrium ?) - pull the left horn posteriorly and the right horn will become exposed then slowly exteriorise the right ovary and detach it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(not sure detach is a good word here but I know what I mean)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ligate the right mesentery and ligate at the uterus vagina area.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;As long as you have the ovaries out leaving a bit of uterus is not a problem.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Close all muscle layers with the same sutures.&lt;span style="font-size:12px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Close the skin.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;[Tell the owner to &amp;quot;Take it to the Park for Good Advertising&amp;quot;. Advice from Eamon McAlister on bone repair with external fixation. ]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;What to avoid:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;- do not do this on very round abdomen dogs - TEST If the anaesthetised bitch is on the table lying say on its right side and see it you can push the incision area down and feel the table - if you cannot feel the table my advice would be do it mid line.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;We reckoned to be able to do one dog about every 15 - 20 minutes including GA, clipping, wound prep ( spray with povidone iodine ).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Average incision would be between 1 and 2 inches.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;It is much easier and quicker to do this with a scrubbed assistant as they can hold the tissue forceps upwards when the surgeon puts in the Rochester Pean and get other things ready to hand to the surgeon.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;For some reason the nurse looks after the anaesthesia; &amp;nbsp;not really necessary these days and they would be much better employed learning what instruments the surgeon is going to use next - I reckon they like to get scrubbed and assist the surgeon as anaesthetics are so boring.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I saw a quadruple coronary artery bi-pass at Papworth many years ago and the anaesthetist once he had stopped the heart and put it on bypass&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;spent the whole time reading his journals.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;The patient did recover.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98021?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:24:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:733479ff-fef6-466f-a1c7-d71765509372</guid><dc:creator>John Flynn</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;bob lehner&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I always thought it was the spikey ends of the blue mono-filament nylon linea alba sutures (single interrupted) which caused tissue reactions.&amp;nbsp; One would often see a dog, months after the op, with a row of small &amp;#39;blisters&amp;#39; down the incision line - and would then go in and remove the offending nylon sutures&amp;nbsp; to resolve the problem.&amp;nbsp; I suppose there might also have been an element of suture infection - although the practice in question was a VH, with a good level of&amp;nbsp; surgical asepsis (by the standards of those days - we are talking 35-plus years ago).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Haven&amp;#39;t used nylon mid-line for donkeys&amp;#39; years now I hasten to add).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I use it regularly and can&amp;#39;t remember a &amp;quot;suture reaction&amp;quot; in recent years (and I&amp;#39;d remember having to go and remove my midline sutures in a bitch spay I think).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do them simple continuous, typically use 2M monofilament nylon and don&amp;#39;t leave long spikey ends and close SC tissue over the knots.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nylon&amp;#39;s got to be one of the least reactive suture materials surely - also cheaper than catgut you know &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If doing cheap neutering then I&amp;#39;d prefer nylon over catgut for all but ligatures.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98020?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:07:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:97b8df8d-c336-4efe-96a6-956008060951</guid><dc:creator>bob lehner</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I always thought it was the spikey ends of the blue mono-filament nylon linea alba sutures (single interrupted) which caused tissue reactions.&amp;nbsp; One would often see a dog, months after the op, with a row of small &amp;#39;blisters&amp;#39; down the incision line - and would then go in and remove the offending nylon sutures&amp;nbsp; to resolve the problem.&amp;nbsp; I suppose there might also have been an element of suture infection - although the practice in question was a VH, with a good level of&amp;nbsp; surgical asepsis (by the standards of those days - we are talking 35-plus years ago).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Haven&amp;#39;t used nylon mid-line for donkeys&amp;#39; years now I hasten to add).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98019?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:58:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:1cddcf4d-672c-4f0f-84b4-56846fc779cf</guid><dc:creator>John Flynn</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;bob lehner&amp;quot;]mono-filament nylon often produced nasty&amp;nbsp; tissue reactions[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;never noted a problem myself&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98017?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:52:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d0153128-6049-4340-abaf-fd995e7045ff</guid><dc:creator>bob lehner</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;In my first job it was the practice policy to do all&amp;nbsp; bitch spays via the flank - possibly because in those days we only had cat gut or nylon for suturing - and neither were ideal for mid-line abdomens - cat gut could break down and mono-filament nylon often produced nasty&amp;nbsp; tissue reactions, even a long time post-op.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As&amp;nbsp; I recall - we went in on the right side&amp;nbsp; (probably to make for easier access to the more cranial R ovary). Relatively easy on a thin, flat-chested breed like a&amp;nbsp; greyhound, but pretty tricky in a big, fat broad chested breed like a SBT - getting the deeper ovary up to the incision could make one sweat a bit...!&amp;nbsp; (I do recall the bosses&amp;nbsp; on occasion doing one side, then turning the dog over to go in again on the left&amp;nbsp; for the second ovary).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Main other probs were bleeding in the muscle layers and post op seromas - obviously better to try and split the muscle layers rather than cutting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Overall I was happy to move onto mid-line spays....particularly when vicryl arrived on the scene as the new wonder suture material !&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/98013?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:13:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:6d8f4416-0c9b-4a94-abb8-76390936713d</guid><dc:creator>sharon rankin</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;In my first job as a new graduate, the senior vets always performed flank bitch spays/caesars. I think the advantages were: ability to spay without needing constant monitoring as the bitch is not lying on her back &amp;amp; that they used catgut in the muscle. I can see why it would be preferred in some overseas spay clinics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have performed one flank bitch spay &amp;amp; hated it (the nurse had already clipped the flank). They bleed more than a cat spay (muscle layers) and accessing both&amp;nbsp;the ovaries and trying not to leave too much of a stump I found was trickier than midline (although&amp;nbsp;less of a problem with ovariectomy) Also many of them come back with rather large seromas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But like anything, practice makes perfect. Good luck!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/97926?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:17:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:303c6bee-96c0-4310-b9db-725439045ebf</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Dennison</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This describes OVH, but I presume the approach would be the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/171/10/248.short"&gt;http://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/171/10/248.short&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lateral Ovariectomy in the Bitch</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/97924?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:12:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c7995a23-56f8-4b0c-b0e9-73863e827f87</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have in the past in small/medium dogs, and for caesarians to avoid pups interfering with the sutures when suckling, it was just like flank spaying a large cat, no change in procedure from that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>