Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Braden Collins — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:20:52 GMT

If no pain sensation to hind legs consider lacerating femoral artery. It should bleed out quickly.

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Michael Woodhouse — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:50:50 GMT

[quote user="Jane Adams"]I'd be very wary of thinking a blow to the head will render a kitten unconscious. It's amazing how many cats (of all sizes) sustain marked head trauma but remain conscious and sensate. Repeated blows to the head is basically bludgeoning and there is ample chance the kitten will suffer in the process.[/quote]

You have to mean it. Did we not all knock a couple of lambs over the head during lambing placements? Same idea - but you have to not wip out last minute.

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:33:19 GMT

I was also appalled at both the glycol and freezing suggestions. Another for petrolexhaust

Wynne

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Richard Carter — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:29:37 GMT

cardboard box, hose pipe and exhaust pipe (petrol of course - diesel not effective). People do themselves in regularly this way and apparently without to much distress and once unconscious everything ok?

I once had an accident with a rope swing that twisted around my neck - spectacular to all who were present but I was unconscious so quickly, I couldn't even react to get out. No unpleasantness at all - I suppose the endorphins were flooding..

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Sally Everitt — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:59:18 GMT

I realise that this may be a little late for this case but both the AVMA and WSPA produce guidance on methods of euthanasia.

https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Documents/euthanasia.pdf

http://caninerabiesblueprint.org/IMG/pdf/Link72_Euthanasia_WSPA.pdf

Sally

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Mark Holmes — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:43:22 GMT

[quote user="Suzanne Kelly"]

If it has no deep pain at all it may not be in pain and if it's bladder is expressed a couple of times a day could it be kept comfy till Saturday?

[/quote] But is pain the only sensation to consider? I would argue that pain is actually far easier to bear than fear and emotional distress. Such as having being paralysed at the hands of a stranger - particularly if partially feral (an assumption)

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

jd2008 — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:11:22 GMT

Your friend has a duty to ensure the animal does not suffer unnecessarily during euthanasia. A botched euthanasia would be traumatic for her as well as the kitten.

If the cat is not in marked pain I would suggest it is nursed until a vet is available to euthanase it humanely.

I'd be very wary of thinking a blow to the head will render a kitten unconscious. It's amazing how many cats (of all sizes) sustain marked head trauma but remain conscious and sensate. Repeated blows to the head is basically bludgeoning and there is ample chance the kitten will suffer in the process.

The idea of poisoning an animal with glycol or freezing it to death is, frankly, abhorrent. I am deeply disturbed a member of our profession has suggested this.

Not an easy situation and your friend has my sympathies....

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Suzanne Kelly — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:54:22 GMT

If it has no deep pain at all it may not be in pain and if it's bladder is expressed a couple of times a day could it be kept comfy till Saturday?

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Gerbil — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:51:24 GMT

For gods sake dont freeze it. Get a spade and whack it if you need to. quick death and far more humane than freezing.

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Bart Nietrzeba — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:04:04 GMT

Does she has an access to a freezer? A bit of glikol would do the trick. Or sedate the cat and put it inside.

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Mark Holmes — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:00:40 GMT

Bang on the head - but for ease pop it in a pillow case and swung it in that. A couple or three swift over the head blows against something hard will suffice. Not pleasant but relatively quick.

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:56:59 GMT

Emily - the link is fine in principal, but bears almost no relevance to the situation your friend is in.

CO2 is still used for stunning pigs for slaughter.

If not prepared to knock the cat over the head, how about placing it under the cars wheel as driven forward. (I aim for myxi bunnies).

The simplest is exhaust gas.

I thought with what I have seen on the news that another gunshot might not be noticed.

I'd also use a humane killer if it was all I had to hand, despite it not been recommended.

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Mark Hedberg — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:53:33 GMT

Agreed, Egypt not the best place to be firing guns. CO poisoning , while slow, is effective; as is CO2 poisoning. Is Friday a no-go day at all over there?

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Emily Nightingale — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:48:34 GMT

http://caninerabiesblueprint.org/IMG/pdf/Link72_Euthanasia_WSPA.pdf I sent her the link..

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Emily Nightingale — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:47:39 GMT

I said the same thing re shooting the poor thing but as it was quite rightly pointed out to me that firing a shot in the middle of Cairo in this turmoil possibly not best thing ... Ideal for the cat problem but not for surroundings!

Re: Egypt and cat requiring euthanasia

Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:43:13 GMT

No access to firearms?

Does she have a car? Carbon monoxide poisoning is not a bad way to go. People slip away in their sleep.