https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/15247/hypomagnesaemia-ivy-poisoning We have 8 acres of New Forest land and a couple of beef suckler cows managed to get through the fence last week. One went down with &#39;grass staggers&#39; yesterday (my provisional diagnosis based on symptoms) but the owners are adamant it has ivy poisoningen-USTelligent Community 10https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/88308?ContentTypeID=1Mon, 13 May 2013 17:55:43 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:841ae035-b11b-43c4-a868-6e7a6318f981Bob Russell<p>[quote user=&quot;Michael Woodhouse&quot;]</p> <p>Is the affected cow better or dead? Usually it is improved fertilised pasture that gets the mag tied up. </p> <p>You can sample vitreous humour to measure mag level post mortem. Very cheap and easy. Levels stable for at least 48 hours. </p> <p>Never seen or even heard of ivy poisoning.</p> <div style="clear:both;"></div> <p>[/quote]</p> <p>Nor had I and forest cattle eat every kind of cr*p known to man. I recommended they treated (or had it treated!) with magnesium s/c or slow i/v Ca/Mg. They knew better!&nbsp;</p> <p>My land is far from improved but has been rested over winter. My suspicion is based more on the knowledge of the individuals concerned!</p> <p>The cow was bodily lifted into the back of a trailer and taken away so I have no idea what has happened other than doubt she received veterinary attention. I suspect the kennelman at the local hunt will confirm ivy poisoning!&nbsp;</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/88306?ContentTypeID=1Mon, 13 May 2013 17:42:42 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a9c60688-dc67-4b3f-895e-4e5367534a94Michael Woodhouse<p>Is the affected cow better or dead? Usually it is improved fertilised pasture that gets the mag tied up. </p> <p>You can sample vitreous humour to measure mag level post mortem. Very cheap and easy. Levels stable for at least 48 hours. </p> <p>Never seen or even heard of ivy poisoning.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/88300?ContentTypeID=1Mon, 13 May 2013 16:59:31 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:f791d99c-f5a6-4471-b9fe-9e01cc608853Rob Davis<p>[quote user=&quot;Bob Russell&quot;]I have a nagging suspicion that the &#39;poisoning&#39; bit may be the forerunner to a letter from the individual holding me responsible for events! [/quote]</p> <p>Surely it is the cattle owner&#39;s responsibility to keep his animals confined, not yours to keep them out of your property.</p> <p>Also not done LA work for many years so no help whatsoever on clinical aspects!</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>