castration sugar glider

Re: castration sugar glider

Mark Holmes — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:49:06 GMT

I have not done skin closure in rabbit castrates for 12 years, I closed castrate and close the tunic in the ligature and then just digital compress the scrotum for a few seconds whilst recovering the rabbit, and no intradermals either.

Re: castration sugar glider

Mark Rowland — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 08:55:49 GMT

fwiw I dont use glue that much any more. My rabbit castrates just get 1 simple interrupted suture of PDS each side and I dont seem to have any problems. I still use glue in other small mammals but not so much for the rabbits these days.

Re: castration sugar glider

Marie Kubiak — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:51:46 GMT

I'm a glue fan for rabbit castrates - just a tiny bit to hold the skin incision closed and all the faff of trying to do intradermals in paper thin skin is avoided!

Re: castration sugar glider

James Laidlaw — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 06:30:55 GMT

Sorry, rabbits - off topic

Re: castration sugar glider

Mark Rowland — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:52:27 GMT

What for, rabbits or sugar gliders?

Re: castration sugar glider

James Laidlaw — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:45:13 GMT

I've always used tissue glue too. Any issue with this Mark?

Re: castration sugar glider

Rajat — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:41:57 GMT

that posted by itself...weird

was saying, been doing em on every testicle I am commanded to remove regardless of species, and so far seems to have given good results!

Re: castration sugar glider

Rajat — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:41:03 GMT

[quote user="Simon Neuhoff"]err - with respect, mindful of the threads about criticisms etc! -but is leaving rabbit scrotums open the best way forward? Given their proximity to the ground I have always closed them.[/quote]

me too, tissue glue all the way baby!

But, seeing others approach of leaving it open I might give it a shot if I am feeling brave! So far no probs with gluing em shut though.

PS - Really nice to see IT blocks being done in exotics too - been doing em on eve

Re: castration sugar glider

Gillian Mostyn — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:48:45 GMT

I also leave rabbit scrotums open. If you have a look before they get discharged the scrotum will already have shrivelled up and the wound is often stuck closed already! I also say no loose bedding for a few days.

Re: castration sugar glider

Violaine Colon — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:38:37 GMT

I am very glad I asked before the surgery .

For rabbits castration, I personally found that they interfere less when scrotum left open then when I used to stitch it up. I never had the patience to try intradermal on the scrotum! Almost had never any infections post op but we do ask to keep them on newspaper for a few days.

Re: castration sugar glider

Mark Rowland — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:00:29 GMT

I do mine open. IT block, opioid + metacam. I find that the scrotum whilst often pendulous is not always and can be attached well to the abdomen (hence the term pompom) as here

Closure and post op care as Marie said.

Re: castration sugar glider

Simon Neuhoff — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:32:25 GMT

[quote user="Violaine Colon"]

Hi,

I have two sugar gliders book in for castration tomorrow. I have done a lot of different rodent but never a sugar glider.

I was planning to do like a rabbit: scrotal incision and leave scrotum open.

Any special tips for sugar glider?

Cheers

[/quote]

err - with respect, mindful of the threads about criticisms etc! -but is leaving rabbit scrotums open the best way forward? Given their proximity to the ground I have always closed them.

Re: castration sugar glider

Marie Kubiak — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 12:40:44 GMT

Sugar gliders have very different anatomy - the scrotum forms a pendulous pouch on the ventral abdomen, more cranially than in rodents/rabbits. I tend to ablate the scrotum to avoid leaving it to hang as they love to self-traumatise. I do a circumferential incision around the base of the scrotal attachment, ligate each side separately, and close with intradermals. Monitor them very closely on recovery to make sure they aren't going at the wound, offering food immediately helps distract them. I use opioid and NSAIDs pre-op to minimise and pain induced self-trauma.

Marie