Primucell

Re: Primucell

Andrew Kent — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:58:34 GMT

The idea of blood testing comes from Dianne Addie, who recommends it if adding cats to a multi cat household that has previously had FIP. equally this is the market that vaccination is aimed at (only available in USA and some European countries) but yes kittens have to have early weaning etc. my own view is that it would be more sensible just not getting more cats in a multi cat household. But in this case waiting a short period should be fine.

Re: Primucell

Bob Russell — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:09:12 GMT

Recommend a three month wait and to get a 'moggy' kitten from a local family home (not multicat household) and take pot-luck. FeLV/FIV bloods if worried.

Most of these kittens seem to be bomb (but not car) proof!

Re: Primucell

Rajat — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:07:24 GMT

Martin said it very well, most kittens are corona positive, and I don't see the benefit of vax unles breeder separates + weans early and then vaccinates to ensure corona negative cats. Blood for FCoV are useless to check for risk of FIP. So in short, the owner can go ahead and get the cat, its not going to 'catch' FIP and vaccinating is not likely to help at all unless it is somehow miraculously FCoV negative.

As someone mentioned, Dr Addies website is a good resource.

Best

Raj

Re: Primucell

Martin Atkinson — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:55:59 GMT

Firstly I wasn't aware there was an FCoV vaccine available in the UK. Secondly a very high proportion of cats are FCoV +ve and only a very small proportion develop FIP and I'm not presently aware that there is any way of predicting which FCoV cats will develop FIP so there seems little point in blood testing. This is as much an environmental/stress problem, particularly due to overcrowding, as an infectious one. My main concern would not be the vaccination/FCoV status of any new cat but how many other cats are already in the household and what other stress factors there are, if it is already overcrowded then I would advise against any new cats. I suspect there is a link between vaccination and FIP developing in FCoV cats, particularly FeLV vaccine, presumably due to distribution of immune system resources and associated stress, to the extent that I won't vaccinate a kitten with an FIV vaccine if it has symptoms suspicious of FCoV diarrhoea until it is clear or proved -ve. Common sense not to overload an overstretched immune system I feel.

Re: Primucell

Andrew Kent — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:20:31 GMT

Dianne Addie addresses this on her website. CoV lasts maybe 7 weeks in environment so wouldn't have to wait that long and don't see a benefit to vaccination in that context. See http://www.dr-addie.com/faq.htm

Re: Primucell

Vet2Vet — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:08:13 GMT

He has no other cats left . Don't think corona is particularly resilient ? If I were in his shoes would wait 6 months .

Re: Primucell

Andrew Kent — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:06:47 GMT

Plus not aware that it is available in the UK?

Re: Primucell

Andrew Kent — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:04:37 GMT

Does the owner still have other cats that were present at the same time as FIP cats? If so then they are likely to be infected and so you could test their FCoV antibody titre to find out. If high then prob not a good time to introduce another cat. If no other cats then wait a couple of months and disinfect well. Never used Primucell as not entirely convinced by it.

Re: Primucell

Vet2Vet — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:03:26 GMT

Cannot believe this owner wants to get a kitten ! He told me recently he will see me in a year with a puppy ! Guess the human race really is divided into cat and dog people ?

Re: Primucell

Dagmar Steele — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:58:34 GMT

Everything I've read so far about this vaccine has made me stop using it. Studies didn't suggest a sufficient protection. I'd rather wait at least three months before getting a new kitten. On the other hand this one might be already FOC+ as a high percentage of the cat population is anyway, so no guarantees that it won't get FIP. What a nasty disease.