vestigial penis / vulval haemorrhage

Re: vestigial penis / vulval haemorrhage

Rob Davis — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:07:13 GMT

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[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]The red colour in tortoishell is supposed to be a sexed linked gene so torty males are theoretically impossible and I've never seen another, who else has seen one of them?[/quote]

We had a client with one. I thought most were XXY

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Ditto. The client in question seemed quite bemused at my excitement that his tortoiseshell cat had a penis!

Re: vestigial penis / vulval haemorrhage

Utlendigur — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:21:05 GMT

We had a client with one. I thought most were XXY http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1163864

Re: vestigial penis / vulval haemorrhage

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:26:48 GMT

I once had a dog with 3 testes (has been subject of a recent thread) and a tortoishell cat that was ostensibly a male and was castrated normally, I never looked to see if it had girlie bits inside. The red colour in tortoishell is supposed to be a sexed linked gene so torty males are theoretically impossible and I've never seen another, who else has seen one of them?

Re: vestigial penis / vulval haemorrhage

Utlendigur — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:51:54 GMT

We had a young collie bitch in last year with the same sort of thing - small os penis protruding from vulva. When spayed (plus os penis excised) she had completely normal-looking ovaries and uterus. Many years ago I had a labrador cross that seemed to be unilateral cryptorchid - one normal scrotal testicle, but ex lap to hunt for the other produced an ovary and the cranial part of something that looked like a vestigial uterine horn.

Re: vestigial penis / vulval haemorrhage

Sarah Mark — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:16:35 GMT

I was seeing a young staffie bitch with - surprise - sarcoptic mange, with a strange penis-like protruberance poking out of her vulva by about 1cm. Felt like an os penis within. Some sort of orifice on the dorsal edge - not sure if the actual urethra? She was leaving it alone and all OK other than the skin but the owners were upset about it, so the plan was to get skin settled,GA to investigate the odd genitalia further - I was hoping to pass a catheter and see where it went, ex-lap/spay if indeed a uterus and ovaries present, and if reasonably straighforward, remove the protruding 'bits'. However the owners balked at the (very reasonable) cost and we received a request for records from a neighbouring practice, so that's that I suppose.

Would love to see some photos of your case, it does sound similar, although ours was not causing any signs.

Re: vestigial penis / vulval haemorrhage

Rob Davis — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:31:03 GMT

Not seen anything similar, but I'd love to see some pictures if you can.

Re: vestigial penis / vulval haemorrhage

Martin Atkinson — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:59:20 GMT

Not seen anything like that but would be interested to know who spayed her and what the uterus looked like.