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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Guinea pig bladder stones</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/11770/guinea-pig-bladder-stones</link><description> Hi All, some thoughts on how to help a little piggie would be great. 
 He had a bladder stone removed by cystotomy a couple of years ago, urinary &amp;#39;problems&amp;#39; earlier this year which responded to Septrin and the owner has seen another bladder stone passed</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Guinea pig bladder stones</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/64707?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:34:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:91e9cd3e-6f3d-41e8-a3bb-872a4b9251a1</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Mark Rowland&amp;quot;]Human artificial sweetners or honey can be used to sweeten up the water,[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry, why honey? Why not just sugar?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Guinea pig bladder stones</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/64688?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 09:40:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:df3b0db5-cf10-4da5-b11e-92cd68ef9bf1</guid><dc:creator>Mark Rowland</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:&amp;#39;Arial&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-font-family:&amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;"&gt;Composition and characteristics of urinary calculi from guinea pigs. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:&amp;#39;Arial&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-font-family:&amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;"&gt;J Am Vet Med Assoc. January 2009;234(2):214-20. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:&amp;#39;Arial&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-font-family:&amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;"&gt;Michelle G Hawkins&lt;sup&gt;1&lt;/sup&gt;; Annette L Ruby; Tracy L Drazenovich; Jodi L Westropp &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:&amp;#39;Arial&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-font-family:&amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;"&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:&amp;#39;Arial&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-font-family:&amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;"&gt;Department of Medicine and Epidemiology, School of Veterinary Medicine, University of California, Davis, CA 95616, USA. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;CONCLUSIONS AND CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Contrary to findings of other studies, urinary calculi analyzed for the present study were most commonly composed of 100% calcium carbonate, and infrared spectroscopy or XRD was necessary to differentiate this mineral from others. Treatments, including diet and husbandry practices, should be developed to help prevent development of calcium carbonate calculi in guinea pigs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;margin-left:36pt;text-indent:-18pt;line-height:18pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&amp;egrave;&lt;span style="font:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Thiazide diuretics act to decrease renal calcium excretion so may be used to manage these cases long term. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Decreased levels of urine calcium are generally associated with the use of thiazide diuretics. A problem with giving thiazide diuretics chronically is that they have been linked to glucose intolerance. Replacement of potassium has been shown to eliminate thiazide-induced hyperglycemia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;margin-left:36pt;text-indent:-18pt;line-height:18pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&amp;egrave;&lt;span style="font:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Find out if owners are supplementing diet with Vitamin C. Experimentally, urinary ascorbate, if present at a high concentration increases stone formation in guinea-pigs given high calcium or high oxalate diets. This may be a double-edged sword i.e. giving enough Vitamin C to prevent scurvy but not increase stone formation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt 36pt;" class="MsoListParagraph"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;margin-left:36pt;text-indent:-18pt;line-height:18pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&amp;egrave;&lt;span style="font:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Guinea pigs adopt a stance for urination similar to a cat. The animal lifts its hindquarters and directs a jet of urine away from the body. Guinea pigs that are obese or have bumblefoot are unable to assume the correct stance to urinate, retain urine in the bladder, and dribble urine on the fur. Retained urine leads to calcium sedimentation if the animal is on a high calcium diet; urine dribbling leads to skin scalding and infection, and especially in females to an ascending urinary tract infection. Correct the problems of obesity and bumblefoot for long-term prevention of urinary incontinence. Short-term measures for dealing with incontinence are to clip soiled, matted hair from the skin and to apply topical antibacterial medication and/or waterproof barrier cream to the perineal area. Check the spine also when taking radiographs and possibly go onto meloxicam if there is any spondylosis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt 36pt;" class="MsoListParagraph"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;margin-left:36pt;text-indent:-18pt;line-height:18pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&amp;egrave;&lt;span style="font:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Urolithiasis crystal formation may be reduced by giving citrate to guinea pigs at risk. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It is not palatable and although it will raise urine pH, it exerts its effect by reducing calculi formation. Potassium is the preferred citrate compound because sodium citrate can increase urinary calcium excretion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10pt;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt 36pt;" class="MsoListParagraph"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Doses: &lt;span style="mso-tab-count:1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Potassium Citrate...1ml/kg liquid citrate devided into 3 doses&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count:1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Hydrochlorothiazide 1mg/kg bid&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Monitor also for cystitis as inflammation will predispose to calculi formation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Even so these can be very frustrating, I did a nephrectomy last week on a little piggy with a ureter full of calculi and hydronephrosis having removed one small stone from the ureter 6 months ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Human artificial sweetners or honey can be used to sweeten up the water, the citrate needs to be given separately as it has very poor palatability&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;Hope this helps.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="background:#f9f9f9;line-height:18pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Calibri&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count:1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Guinea pig bladder stones</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/64673?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 00:24:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:5aee2412-0850-4134-b933-63e54543b233</guid><dc:creator>David Mills</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Evelyn Barbour-Hill&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Mark Rowland&amp;quot;]Natural non sugar sweeteners[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/new/icon_question.png" alt="Question" /&gt; Suggestions?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stevia leaves - actually just marketed commercially as a granulated preparation for humans. Zero calories.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our record of recurrence stands at 8 weeks for bladder stones in pigs. We&amp;#39;ve tried all sorts re diet but have never been convinced that clients have followed such - they seem to see it as a bit of a faff &amp;#39;just for a guinea pig&amp;#39; generally&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Guinea pig bladder stones</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/64671?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 22:20:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2bdf785e-edf1-4db3-85a0-104c163c116a</guid><dc:creator>Julie Innes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Watching this with interest, as I had a case last year where I had to remove stones from the bladder of a guinea pig, and also one from each ureter (ouch!) Piggy did really well on an increased veg and hay diet and lived a year before dying of unrelated causes. But I did wonder at the time about rabbit urinary diet. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Guinea pig bladder stones</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/64651?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 17:38:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e4907fc2-76ad-49c0-bdbf-14d319a4558d</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Mark Rowland&amp;quot;]Natural non sugar sweeteners[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/new/icon_question.png" alt="Question" /&gt; Suggestions?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Guinea pig bladder stones</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/64631?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 15:41:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b5ee65f6-81cd-4d45-beb3-dba077636c4b</guid><dc:creator>Mark Rowland</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello
These cases are frustrating and recurrence is common. Pathogenesis is is not completely understood.
Dietary changes are unlikely to be that effective but increasing vit c and staying clear of pellets is what I would do.
Fluid intake is important so I would try to encourage this and increase exercise. Natural non sugar sweeteners may increase fluid intake.

Goodluck.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>