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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/11650/cystotomy</link><description> [apologies if this appears in duplicate. internet crashed] 
 I have fallen out of love with Fossums. 
 Can anyone advise on suture material for cystotomy? 3/0 PDS simple continuous? 
 </description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63927?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:19:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e7808f65-d734-4668-8b5f-22e9e9f9b20c</guid><dc:creator>CatherineThomas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I use vicryl too, probably 4/0. I also do an inverting pattern. Sometimes I&amp;#39;ll do a second layer, depending on how happy I am with the first layer and how thick the bladder wall is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63919?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 13:04:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a7686087-37d1-447e-8f5f-1a6b98c2acee</guid><dc:creator>HMC</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I went with 3/0 PDS simple continuous (twice as I&amp;#39;m a a worrier). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63894?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 09:53:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:6835c9cb-95ec-4688-9946-27a2ed9c2400</guid><dc:creator>Mark Rowland</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I use PDS, appositional &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Thumbs_up.png" alt="Thumbs up" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63892?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 09:45:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:1577ecce-c55f-4b32-8917-8eac544f2f27</guid><dc:creator>Lorna McHardy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Simon Neuhoff&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Single layer apposition with no inverting seems to be the way to go these days. Recent JAVMA paper (I&amp;#39;ve only read the synopsis) suggests slightly lower complications with this than double layer with inversion. Vicryl for me.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I also use vicryl... usually a single inverting layer... might change that now; although, so far, I&amp;#39;ve not had any complications I&amp;#39;m aware of with these. Is there a link to that paper anywhere? Presumably that single layer apposition would not be full thickness?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63889?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 08:55:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a7eb0464-e959-4e6d-9802-224e6aa7b406</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Single layer apposition with no inverting seems to be the way to go these days. Recent JAVMA paper (I&amp;#39;ve only read the synopsis) suggests slightly lower complications with this than double layer with inversion. Vicryl for me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63880?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:35:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c32592fa-b3df-4436-8c65-7a61e5f88d4a</guid><dc:creator>stuart mcmorrow</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;3/0 monocryl works for me&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63823?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:41:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:8731b4c1-9d6f-44a0-aacc-ceb786040e34</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;4/0 Vicryl for me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63821?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:30:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:320b01c6-ef1b-46c6-ba19-86a2328f0de5</guid><dc:creator>David Mills</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Monocryl 3-0/2-0 depending on size of animal; I was also under the impression that inverting sutures no longer in vogue as inverted bladder wall with bleeding cut edges are associated with greater risk of post-op infection. Bladder heals very quickly and is a specialist leak-resistant organ forming a seal very very quickly so persistence not a great issue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63817?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:33:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:76e19b92-0925-4fb5-bf84-b880b9619778</guid><dc:creator>derrick carpenter</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Single layer Continuous appositional vircyl  3/0 possibly 4/0 in a cat. I&amp;#39;d have thought pds would also be fine&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63811?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:59:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:37514053-7c64-4f50-a37d-6a7c093f0d9e</guid><dc:creator>Mark Holmes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I try to invert ... But how often do you open a healthy bladder?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63807?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:23:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:96f8bd12-c586-4b5b-bbec-0e5ef8e33115</guid><dc:creator>emma o&amp;amp;#39;connor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I use biosyn for cystotomy closure, and generally go for an inverting suture pattern if not too thickened from chronic inflammation, otherwise I will use an interrupted pattern.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63799?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 18:48:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c6dbe1d0-3677-497c-9cda-f235c331ba75</guid><dc:creator>Rosie_Skinner</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Biosyn would be fine. Also I went to a surgery talk yesterday, and they said to do simple interrupted in the bladder wall as it allows for more flexibility/security in the suture line when the bladder fills and empties.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63795?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 18:26:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:52cb8ac2-c663-463d-bab3-8bc8fd12ec38</guid><dc:creator>HMC</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The practice has caprosyn (polyglytone 6211) and biosyn (glycomer 631).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmmm. To order in PDS or not to order in PDS....?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63790?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:33:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:dd4c3b2a-6770-4029-b091-f82910edadd4</guid><dc:creator>Utlendigur</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Another vote for PDS. Also inversion suture if possible (but not full wall thickness to avoid suture material in bladder lumen) but sometimes the bladder wall is just too thick to invert (eg chronic calculi). I usually use 1.5m pds unless particularly big bladder/incision&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: cystotomy</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/63787?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:19:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:bc9d7e52-9feb-4da7-a7b1-bc102367e1c1</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;PDS but an inversion suture&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>