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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Pancreatitis/hepatitis - to give steroids or not?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/11240/pancreatitis-hepatitis---to-give-steroids-or-not</link><description> We have had a 12yr old Collie cross (not sure what but owner thinks possibly could be spaniel) in for the last week treating hepatitis/pancreatitis medically. She initially had an ALT of 3500, ALKP of 2800, bilirubin of 600 and a spec cPl of 575. Ultrasound</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Pancreatitis/hepatitis - to give steroids or not?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60096?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:58:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2b5fc843-dd67-4453-b9b4-561f47c06b44</guid><dc:creator>Edward Jones</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Re: Hepatitis, you might find the following &amp;#39;In Practise&amp;#39; articles helpful, if you can find them:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bexfield, NH&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;amp; Watson, PJ. (2009) Treatment of canine liver disease 2. Managing clinical signs and specific liver diseases. In Practice 31: 172-180.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bexfield, NH&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;amp; Watson, PJ. (2009) Treatment of canine liver disease 1. Drugs and dietary management. In Practice 31:130-135.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Pancreatitis/hepatitis - to give steroids or not?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60073?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:45:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:1bc7fc21-2a35-48cc-af3d-0be79f64e6a8</guid><dc:creator>nikki</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;nothing to dislike about your answer re the steroids - that was what I was unsure about - whether there was ever any indiciation to use them in anything other than the immune mediated disease in Cockers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;liver looked fine on ultrasound - homogenous and uniform.&amp;nbsp; repeated the scan yesterday and same findings - common bile duct still only moderately dilated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Pancreatitis/hepatitis - to give steroids or not?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60058?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:22:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:30e39765-e04d-411e-8cb9-a9b4f449f116</guid><dc:creator>Christopher Saul</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Nikki,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Firstly I&amp;#39;d want to be sure with your diagnostics; is there definately no evidence of other liver disease which may explain the jaindice? did the hepatic parenchyma look okay?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Assuming you are happy with the diagnosis and you are definately talking pancreatitis then I&amp;#39;d probably just continue as you are provided the dog is clinically improving. If he deteriorates futher it&amp;#39;s worth remebering that in extreme cases pancreatitis can cause complete bilary obstruction necessating placement of a stent in the bile duct; is referral to a soft tissue surgeon an option?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You may not like my answer but with regard to the steroid can of worms; this is something in which I&amp;#39;m very interested as I am a (very lowly ranked) co-author in one of the cocker spaniel studies. We have had an abstract accepted at ACVIM but there&amp;#39;s alot of work still to do....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In humans there is a form of chronic pancreatitis which is considered auto-immune, and this form of the disease is characterised by a predominence of IgG4+ plasma cells on immunohistochemistry. Chronic pancreatitis in a cohort of cocker spaniels has been demonstrated to also show a predominence of IgG4+ plasma cells, and the logic is that this disease is also probably autoimmune as in humans. It therefore seems logical to treat these cases with steroids; indeed I do myself,&amp;nbsp;though we have yet to prove a clinical benefit to this. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Such a&amp;nbsp;pattern of &amp;nbsp;disease has ONLY been demonstrated in cocker spaniels, not in other spaniel breeds (let alone crosses) so I would say that with the current level of knowledge of pancreatitis, there is no reason to give steroids in this case.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would suggest continuing with your standard pancreatitis treatment plan, you seem to be doing a good job so far!&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Happy_smiley.png" alt="Happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope this helps&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Pancreatitis/hepatitis - to give steroids or not?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60057?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:59:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:bdb85e79-bf9b-43bd-b027-983a1053aca1</guid><dc:creator>David Mills</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Steroids only indication to prevent fibrosis or immune mediated disease, latter requires cytological/histological diagnosis, former usually of concern if widespread heterogenecity on US. Mostly steroids are contraindicated in liver disease. ALT/ALP don&amp;#39;t give any indication of prognosis. If dog eating and bright, send home oral meds, jaundice can take days-weeks to resolve completely.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>