RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:57:41 GMT

Innocent till proved guilty.

A man already retired sees little purpose in spending lots of money fighting charges he denies.

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

james herriot lied — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:50:21 GMT

It makes for alarming reading, certainly. But I'd point out that the colleague in question denies the charges, and has not at this point had any proven. It's therefore not reasonable for the rest of us to decide on his guilt - we all pay our subs for the privilege of being put before the DC after all, and who buys a horse, only to pull the cart themself?

Were he to be found guilty of certain of the charges, I'd be the first to throw stones - or rather, second after Wynne - but until that point is reached, speculation and gossip are unprofessional. Hence the suggestion to rephrase: a discussion of the charge sheet is one thing; assumption of guilt quite another.

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

Gillian Mostyn — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:22:17 GMT

Have you read the charge sheet JHL?

awardingbody.rcvs.org.uk/.../cartmell-william-bamber-september-2012-charges

Once it gets to this stage it is unlikely that the charges are completely incorrect - they are very thoroughly investigated before this stage. It would be difficult to defend these actions really. He may feel he is not guilty of disgraceful conduct, but I think few would agree with him.

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

james herriot lied — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:45:02 GMT

So a man at the end of his career decides that he no longer has the will to fight charges which he denies, and instead leaves a profession which he has served - with an unblemished record - for sixty years.

Presuming his guilt is unwarranted. We should have more respect both for our colleagues and for the abiding principle of 'innocent till proven guilty'. Suggesting guilt without knowledge of the case is pretty much the textbook definition of a disparaging remark - which is surely unprofessional according to the GtoPC.

Would it be too much to ask for a rephrasing and associated apology, Wynne?

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:41:34 GMT

In that case fine-though I think the risk of injury to working spaniels is exaggerated so would personally refuse to dock

Wynne

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

jd2008 — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:31:20 GMT

Yep, I'm aware of that. She had actually left one of the litter undocked for me as she knew I didn't want it docked and would only be going so far as field trials.

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:11:07 GMT

Unless you work it, if it's docked then the breeder was breaking the law in selling it to you

Wynne

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

jd2008 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:59:36 GMT

William Cartmell is the vet the breeder of my Springer recommends on her website (he docks) :-(

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:03:47 GMT

I downloaded the charge sheet and it's horrendous, but I agree that Royal College were sensible in saving us the cost of a hearing estimated to last 4 weeks, and he's off the Register so the main objective was achieved

Wynne

PS I didn't know you could get Immobilon now

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

Tim Cheyne — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 05:55:16 GMT

Or more likely the RCVS made a sensible suggestion to which he agreed; a rather nicer way of putting it. The name rings a vague bell in my deteriorating memory; I think that at one time he was a very respected member of the profession.

Tim.

RE: RCVS Disciplinary Committee adjourns charges against Hampshire vet

Hannah Wynne Richards — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:50:29 GMT

Sounds like he jumped before he could be pushed

Wynne