Homeopathic vets claim new study demonstrates efficacy

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HERETIC — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:32:17 GMT

The snow and Christmas is a relevant comment. I have noticed that since our phones go to an out of hours service provider at the weekend many animals can recover or survive without ooh treatment when given a quote of £110.I'm not convinced that this is great for animal welfare but that is how I feel about homeopathy as well.

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Jon RUBEN — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:40:50 GMT

amazing isnt it? Galileo nearly died because he opposed establishment views. But we all know the sun revolves round the earth in spite of Galileo's ignorant comments given without the benefit of a double blind trial. When it snows or over Christmas a remarkable number of pets seem to recover without the administration of amoxycillin or meloxicam or other drugs. By the way, I don't practice homeopathy but nor do I wear blinkers.

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Arlo Guthrie — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:37:02 GMT

If anyone is preventing intelligent discussion on this subject, surely it must be the chairwoman of the Society of Homeopaths, seen here on Newsnight last night.

(interview starts at 17:02 on the timeline).

www.bbc.co.uk/.../Newsnight_04_01_2011

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Cissy Lloyd Jones — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:56:04 GMT

The more you know, the less you understand. -- Lao-Tse (I think)

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Roger Meacock — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:08:36 GMT

The argument that animals get better anyway seems only to be rolled out for homeopathy etc but could equally be applied to many pharmaceuticals, many of which are licensed on an efficacy far lower than 60%.

Regarding placing toenail clippings or anything else up your bottom for indigestion etc - whatever turns you on ... but it conclusively proves it doesn't improve maturity, intelligence or discussion!

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Niall Taylor — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:36:53 GMT

I might try the toenail thing though...

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Niall Taylor — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:36:22 GMT

Oh, I see they've finally published it after years of press releases about how they're JUST ABOUT to publish it or, "look at this spreadsheet we've got, isn't it just great", all of which are presumably designed solely to derive more pro-homeopathic 'yield' from what is essentially a customer satisfaction survey - complete and utter tosh.

Niall

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Emma Middleton — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 13:19:56 GMT

Isn't this saying what every other homeopathy study already has? i.e. inconclusive. How many would have got better anyway and how many would have got better with a placebo? I haven't read the full article, but without an appropriate control group this type of study doesn't really tell us anything we don't already know.

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Martin Jones — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:22:53 GMT

I think, according to strict homeopathic principles, that putting the whole toenail clipping up there will make the indigestion worse; it's the warm fuzzy memory of the toenail that makes everything better.

How you keep it up there long enough to work is anybody's guess - a well-placed thumb ought to do the trick.

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Alex Gough — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:19:22 GMT

Unfortunately all this shows is that some people use homeopathy, and some animals get better. There doesn't seem to be any evidence for a link between these two facts. It is interesting to note that these are owner reported outcomes - I wonder how the owners can objectively judge that their animal's chronic renal failure or spondylosis is

improving.