Homeopaths up in arms about new RCVS position on alternative medicine

RE: Homeopaths up in arms about new RCVS position on alternative medicine

bevs2251 — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 05:33:33 GMT

Homeopathy is BS. How can something diluted to the nth degree possibly work. The reasons are in the "Campaign for Rational Veterinary Medicine" cited above - mostly placebo effect ! Tramadol did not work for me AT ALL - in fact made me feel quite sick. Naturopathy probably has more going for it as it is based on plant medicine components from which a lot of our medications are derived. To recommend a homeopathic treatment is wasting the owner's money and unethical, IMO !

RE: Homeopaths up in arms about new RCVS position on alternative medicine

peter chalkley — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 09:54:33 GMT

Our medicinal prescribing is governed by VMD cascade. That should end the professional discussion, but it doesnt.

As a vet using medicine i have to follow this, if i dont and a complaint is lodged about my treatment i can be called up by the RCVS. If i have failed to follow cascade in any way shape or form i can and should be in deep brown.

I also need a VMD inspection to show i am following all of the rules, any breach is jumped on.

Starting off licence is not ok for me. Can i start a "real world vet" where i throw cascade out the window and use what i think is best??

If homeopaths had to follow exactly the same rules i do, fine, go bananas. Until that point, i want a level playing field please.

RE: Homeopaths up in arms about new RCVS position on alternative medicine

Stephen Cooke — Mon, 04 Dec 2017 23:11:17 GMT

I would like to ask Mr Ruben if he would cite examples of medications that work yet do not have a scientific explanation for the way they work? On the same note, one of proof, can he prove that “Argo (... and the rest of the veterinary profession ...) still believes that the sun goes round a flat earth ...”? I don’t and I am mildly insulted by his comment.

RE: Homeopaths up in arms about new RCVS position on alternative medicine

Arlo Guthrie — Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:24:03 GMT

[mention:85e4a92d31a84824a8dc2550cf1a1375:e9ed411860ed4f2ba0265705b8793d05] No need to personalise things, Jonathan! That aside, I wonder which you think is the more plausible explanation, that brick dust diluted to the point that there is no brick dust could be an effective treatment for, well, anything. Or, alternatively, that there are weaknesses in the human mind which cause us (all of us) to believe a medication is working (even one made from diluted brick dust), when in reality it is not: www.vetsurgeon.org/.../homeopathy-works.aspx

RE: Homeopaths up in arms about new RCVS position on alternative medicine

Jonathan Ruben — Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:06:32 GMT

PS I don’t use homeopathy. Nor would I advise a client to seek homeopathic treatment. There are a lot of other treatments I don’t advise but I do know that I don’t know everything unlike Arlo

RE: Homeopaths up in arms about new RCVS position on alternative medicine

Jonathan Ruben — Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:01:49 GMT

I’m sorry that Arlo still believes that the sun goes round a flat earth like the rest of the veterinary establishment. It is quite clear from anyone’s observation that the sun goes round the earth. We see it moving across the sky every day. This is why 17th century scientists dismissed Gallileo’s ideas. Dissing something you don’t understand is foolish. I personally can see no scientific evidence for homeopathy, yet it works. We are only beginning to find out exactly how many orthodox medications actually achieve their clinical effect. Gabapentin being one example. Tramadol used as a pain killer achieves most of its effect by mimicking the action of Prozac.